November 2008 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] FFI inside Pharo ?

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > May i guess, that dev image should contain FFI package by default? What do other people think? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Nov. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178

by Igor Stasenko

2008/11/28 Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com>: > > > >> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:36:14 +0200 >> From: siguctua(a)gmail.com >> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178 >> >> 2008/11/28 Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com>: >> > >> > If FFI is present, then FreeTypeFontProvider gets the windows font >> > folder >> > path with an API call. >> > see FreeTypeFontProvider>>getWindowsFontFolderPath >> > >> > If FFI is not present, then >> > FreeTypeFontProvider>>guessWindowsFontFolderPath >> > is executed, which attempts to guess the fonts folder location. >> > To do this it checks to see if c:\windows\fonts, d:\windows\fonts, >> > e:\windows\fonts, etc. exist. >> > >> >> use >> SHGetSpecialFolderPath ( NULL, buffer , 0x14 /* = CSIDL_FONTS , from >> <shlobj.h> */ , false) >> of shell32.dll to retrieve the location of fonts directory in windoze. >> >> Then you don't need to guess anymore where windoze fonts located :) > > I obviously didn't make myself clear, so I'll have another go :) > > The guessing only happens if FFI is not present. > > If FFI is present then it uses FFI to call SHGetFolderPathA in shfolder.dll > to get the location. > > please refer to FreeTypeFontProvider>>getWindowsFontFolderPath for the > details. Aha. It not works, because there is no FFI package loaded into dev image. Once i loaded FFI it stopped bugging me about inserting disk in a drive. May i guess, that dev image should contain FFI package by default? > > SHGetSpecialFolderPath (or SHGetFolderPath) could be added to some plugin, > rather than using FFI, but hasn't yet. > s/some plugin/freetype plugin :) > Cheers, > Andy > > >> >> > Now, here is the curious thing... >> > >> > On my Vista computer, the D: drive is a DVD drive. >> > If I boot Vista with no disk in D: and evaluate the following in a >> > workspace... >> > >> > (FileDirectory on: 'd:\windows\fonts') exists >> > >> > then it answers false without prompting me to insert a disk. >> > >> > But, if I put a disk in the D: drive, look at its contents in Windows >> > Explorer, then remove the disk and close the drive door; and evaluate >> > the >> > same expression... Now Windows prompts me to insert a disk into D:. >> > If I cancel the Windows prompt, then the expression again answers false. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Andy >> > . >> > >> > >> > >> >> From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >> >> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178 >> >> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:07:52 +0100 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> >> >> > 2008/11/27 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/11845/pharo0.1-10178dev08.11.7.zip >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Funny thing. When i start this image on windowz, it asks me 2 times >> >> > to >> >> > insert a disc in a drive, before showing a main window. >> >> > Have any idea what may cause such idiocy? :) >> >> >> >> windows :) >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Damien Cassou >> >> >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Best regards, >> >> > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > Read amazing stories to your kids on Messenger Try it Now! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > ________________________________ > Get the best wallpapers on the Web - FREE. Click here! > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Nov. 28, 2008

RE: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178

by Andrew Tween

> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:36:14 +0200> From: siguctua(a)gmail.com> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178> > 2008/11/28 Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com>:> >> > If FFI is present, then FreeTypeFontProvider gets the windows font folder> > path with an API call.> > see FreeTypeFontProvider>>getWindowsFontFolderPath> >> > If FFI is not present, then FreeTypeFontProvider>>guessWindowsFontFolderPath> > is executed, which attempts to guess the fonts folder location.> > To do this it checks to see if c:\windows\fonts, d:\windows\fonts,> > e:\windows\fonts, etc. exist.> >> > use> SHGetSpecialFolderPath ( NULL, buffer , 0x14 /* = CSIDL_FONTS , from> <shlobj.h> */ , false)> of shell32.dll to retrieve the location of fonts directory in windoze.> > Then you don't need to guess anymore where windoze fonts located :) I obviously didn't make myself clear, so I'll have another go :) The guessing only happens if FFI is not present. If FFI is present then it uses FFI to call SHGetFolderPathA in shfolder.dll to get the location. please refer to FreeTypeFontProvider>>getWindowsFontFolderPath for the details. SHGetSpecialFolderPath (or SHGetFolderPath) could be added to some plugin, rather than using FFI, but hasn't yet. Cheers, Andy > > > Now, here is the curious thing...> >> > On my Vista computer, the D: drive is a DVD drive.> > If I boot Vista with no disk in D: and evaluate the following in a> > workspace...> >> > (FileDirectory on: 'd:\windows\fonts') exists> >> > then it answers false without prompting me to insert a disk.> >> > But, if I put a disk in the D: drive, look at its contents in Windows> > Explorer, then remove the disk and close the drive door; and evaluate the> > same expression... Now Windows prompts me to insert a disk into D:.> > If I cancel the Windows prompt, then the expression again answers false.> >> > Cheers,> > Andy> > .> >> >> >> >> From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178> >> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:07:52 +0100> >>> >>> >> On Nov 28, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:> >>> >> > 2008/11/27 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>:> >> >>> >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/11845/pharo0.1-10178dev08.11.7.zip> >> >>> >> >> >> > Funny thing. When i start this image on windowz, it asks me 2 times to> >> > insert a disc in a drive, before showing a main window.> >> > Have any idea what may cause such idiocy? :)> >>> >> windows :)> >>> >> Stef> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --> >> >> Damien Cassou> >> >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________> >> >> Pharo-project mailing list> >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --> >> > Best regards,> >> > Igor Stasenko AKA sig.> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________> >> > Pharo-project mailing list> >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project> >> >> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Pharo-project mailing list> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project> >> >> > ________________________________> > Read amazing stories to your kids on Messenger Try it Now!> > _______________________________________________> > Pharo-project mailing list> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project> >> >> > > > -- > Best regards,> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.> > _______________________________________________> Pharo-project mailing list> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _________________________________________________________________ Win Â£1000 John Lewis shopping sprees with BigSnapSearch.com http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/

Nov. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178

by Igor Stasenko

2008/11/28 Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com>: > > If FFI is present, then FreeTypeFontProvider gets the windows font folder > path with an API call. > see FreeTypeFontProvider>>getWindowsFontFolderPath > > If FFI is not present, then FreeTypeFontProvider>>guessWindowsFontFolderPath > is executed, which attempts to guess the fonts folder location. > To do this it checks to see if c:\windows\fonts, d:\windows\fonts, > e:\windows\fonts, etc. exist. > use SHGetSpecialFolderPath ( NULL, buffer , 0x14 /* = CSIDL_FONTS , from <shlobj.h> */ , false) of shell32.dll to retrieve the location of fonts directory in windoze. Then you don't need to guess anymore where windoze fonts located :) > Now, here is the curious thing... > > On my Vista computer, the D: drive is a DVD drive. > If I boot Vista with no disk in D: and evaluate the following in a > workspace... > > (FileDirectory on: 'd:\windows\fonts') exists > > then it answers false without prompting me to insert a disk. > > But, if I put a disk in the D: drive, look at its contents in Windows > Explorer, then remove the disk and close the drive door; and evaluate the > same expression... Now Windows prompts me to insert a disk into D:. > If I cancel the Windows prompt, then the expression again answers false. > > Cheers, > Andy > . > > > >> From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178 >> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:07:52 +0100 >> >> >> On Nov 28, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> > 2008/11/27 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: >> >> >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/11845/pharo0.1-10178dev08.11.7.zip >> >> >> > >> > Funny thing. When i start this image on windowz, it asks me 2 times to >> > insert a disc in a drive, before showing a main window. >> > Have any idea what may cause such idiocy? :) >> >> windows :) >> >> Stef >> >> > >> > >> >> -- >> >> Damien Cassou >> >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > ________________________________ > Read amazing stories to your kids on Messenger Try it Now! > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Nov. 28, 2008

RE: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178

by Andrew Tween

If FFI is present, then FreeTypeFontProvider gets the windows font folder path with an API call. see FreeTypeFontProvider>>getWindowsFontFolderPath If FFI is not present, then FreeTypeFontProvider>>guessWindowsFontFolderPath is executed, which attempts to guess the fonts folder location. To do this it checks to see if c:\windows\fonts, d:\windows\fonts, e:\windows\fonts, etc. exist. Now, here is the curious thing... On my Vista computer, the D: drive is a DVD drive. If I boot Vista with no disk in D: and evaluate the following in a workspace... (FileDirectory on: 'd:\windows\fonts') existsthen it answers false without prompting me to insert a disk. But, if I put a disk in the D: drive, look at its contents in Windows Explorer, then remove the disk and close the drive door; and evaluate the same expression... Now Windows prompts me to insert a disk into D:. If I cancel the Windows prompt, then the expression again answers false. Cheers, Andy .> From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:07:52 +0100> > > On Nov 28, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:> > > 2008/11/27 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>:> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/11845/pharo0.1-10178dev08.11.7.zip> >>> >> > Funny thing. When i start this image on windowz, it asks me 2 times to> > insert a disc in a drive, before showing a main window.> > Have any idea what may cause such idiocy? :)> > windows :)> > Stef> > >> >> >> --> >> Damien Cassou> >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st> >>> >> _______________________________________________> >> Pharo-project mailing list> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project> >>> >> >> >> > -- > > Best regards,> > Igor Stasenko AKA sig.> >> > _______________________________________________> > Pharo-project mailing list> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project> >> > > _______________________________________________> Pharo-project mailing list> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

Nov. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Nov 28, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2008/11/27 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/11845/pharo0.1-10178dev08.11.7.zip >> > > Funny thing. When i start this image on windowz, it asks me 2 times to > insert a disc in a drive, before showing a main window. > Have any idea what may cause such idiocy? :) windows :) Stef > > >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Nov. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Request for Improvement] Cleverer alt-B

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes but this can be like that if there is a method and a class with match the pattern then the first letter is important scriptload -> could be a method now if there is not method scriptload* then scriptloader -> class >> if I type >> Scriptl >> Scriptlo >> Scriptloa >> ... >> -> I should get the choice since there are multiple > 2008/11/28 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Yes for the preference >> >> Now the real solution is >> if I type >> >> scriptloader >> Scriptloader >> -> Browse that class directly (no choice) >> >> if I type >> scriptl >> scriptlo >> scriptloa >> ... >> -> I should get the choice since there are multiple >> possibilities >> > > I don't think it should ignore the case (at least of first letter), to > make difference between browsing implementors of selector or browsing > a class. > > p.s. i just discovered that pressing ctrl-enter shows implementors > as well! :) > >> >> >> On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> On 27.11.2008, at 22:19, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I would love to be able to >>>> type >>>> >>>> Scriptloader alt b and get the ScriptLoader class browsed. >>> >>> there is the alternativeBrowseIt preference.. this does something >>> like >>> that: it >>> shows a menu where you can select the class. >>> >>> Mayeb we should make this the default? >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Nov. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] default selection of senders

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> objectViewed >> "Answer the morph associated with the player that the >> structure the >> receiver currently finds itself within represents." >> >> ^ (self outermostMorphThat: [:o | o isKindOf: Viewer orOf: >> ScriptEditorMorph]) objectViewed >> > > Uh-oh > #isKindOf:orOf: > > poor me, didn't knew that using isKindOf: is evil. Now i'll use it > anywhere! > Its fantastic method! I think we should also have #isKindOf:orOf:orOf: > as well :) even better isKindOfCollection: and well may be we could also test the instance variable names of the class in addition :) Stef

Nov. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on 10178

by Igor Stasenko

2008/11/27 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/11845/pharo0.1-10178dev08.11.7.zip > Funny thing. When i start this image on windowz, it asks me 2 times to insert a disc in a drive, before showing a main window. Have any idea what may cause such idiocy? :) > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Nov. 27, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Request for Improvement] Cleverer alt-B

by Igor Stasenko

2008/11/28 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Yes for the preference > > Now the real solution is > if I type > > scriptloader > Scriptloader > -> Browse that class directly (no choice) > > if I type > scriptl > scriptlo > scriptloa > ... > -> I should get the choice since there are multiple > possibilities > I don't think it should ignore the case (at least of first letter), to make difference between browsing implementors of selector or browsing a class. p.s. i just discovered that pressing ctrl-enter shows implementors as well! :) > > > On Nov 27, 2008, at 10:49 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 27.11.2008, at 22:19, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I would love to be able to >>> type >>> >>> Scriptloader alt b and get the ScriptLoader class browsed. >> >> there is the alternativeBrowseIt preference.. this does something like >> that: it >> shows a menu where you can select the class. >> >> Mayeb we should make this the default? >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Nov. 27, 2008