Pharo on Bluesky and Mastodon
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong political
opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas steveeq1@gmail.com:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more
tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl norbert@hartl.name wrote:
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong
political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not
so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas steveeq1@gmail.com:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong
political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
This is how nazi work: they infiltrate communities and their only
contribution is to jump into discussions to fight anything related to
people wanting to be safe from their bullshit.
He did the same thing (with others) a few years ago for the code
convenant stuff.
He is doing this right now again.
The vocabulary is all there: "echo-chamber", "wrong political opinion",
"tolerant", "leftist"... just all the nazi words they try to impose in
community discussions.
Once we accept, we lose.
Nice and diplomatic discussions do not work with nazis.
So why are we tolerating this? He is not even contributing to Pharo.
Between this and the guy who harasses my students at ESUG, I wonder what
fucking bullshit community we have become.
I have nothing to do anymore in this community.
Steven.
Le 19/02/2025 à 11:06, Steve Quezadas a écrit :
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more
tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl norbert@hartl.name wrote:
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the
"wrong political opinion". It works either way. The way you
experience it is not so much an artefact of the social media
platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas <steveeq1@gmail.com>:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong
political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing
viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
<offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so
called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
Yes, call anyone that disagrees with your political viewpoints
"nazis". Actual nazis ripped people from their homes and murdered millions.
Stop being so dramatic. No one is going to take you seriously until you
come and join the rest of us in reality.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 2:35 AM Steven Costiou steven.costiou@kloum.io
wrote:
This is how nazi work: they infiltrate communities and their only
contribution is to jump into discussions to fight anything related to
people wanting to be safe from their bullshit.
He did the same thing (with others) a few years ago for the code convenant
stuff.
He is doing this right now again.
The vocabulary is all there: "echo-chamber", "wrong political opinion",
"tolerant", "leftist"... just all the nazi words they try to impose in
community discussions.
Once we accept, we lose.
Nice and diplomatic discussions do not work with nazis.
So why are we tolerating this? He is not even contributing to Pharo.
Between this and the guy who harasses my students at ESUG, I wonder what
fucking bullshit community we have become.
I have nothing to do anymore in this community.
Steven.
Le 19/02/2025 à 11:06, Steve Quezadas a écrit :
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more
tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl norbert@hartl.name wrote:
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong
political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not
so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas steveeq1@gmail.com:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong
political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
Please respect the choice of the board.
If you do not like it, just drop of the list.
S
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name mailto:norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas <steveeq1@gmail.com mailto:steveeq1@gmail.com>:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
Hello steven
We have a great community and we should not throw away the baby with the water of the bath (sorry for english readers
I do not know if the direct translation of a french expression makes any sense but you can probably get it).
We will do what we want and do not care about people that do not contribute and not in a positive mindset.
Let us continue to make Pharo great and fun because it is a great and fun system.
I will continue to focus on PRs that improve Pharo.
No need to reply to this thread because I put a filter to trash any emails :)
S,
On 19 Feb 2025, at 11:35, Steven Costiou steven.costiou@kloum.io wrote:
This is how nazi work: they infiltrate communities and their only contribution is to jump into discussions to fight anything related to people wanting to be safe from their bullshit.
He did the same thing (with others) a few years ago for the code convenant stuff.
He is doing this right now again.
The vocabulary is all there: "echo-chamber", "wrong political opinion", "tolerant", "leftist"... just all the nazi words they try to impose in community discussions.
Once we accept, we lose.
Nice and diplomatic discussions do not work with nazis.
So why are we tolerating this? He is not even contributing to Pharo.
Between this and the guy who harasses my students at ESUG, I wonder what fucking bullshit community we have become.
I have nothing to do anymore in this community.
Steven.
Le 19/02/2025 à 11:06, Steve Quezadas a écrit :
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name mailto:norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas <steveeq1@gmail.com mailto:steveeq1@gmail.com>:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.luna@mutabit.com mailto:offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus
The pharo community is going the way of the python community. Where
perfectly acceptable political opinions ("trans women are not real women")
are suppressed under the guise of "breaks community standards".I've noticed
more and more programming groups have gone so far left because of echo
chamber feedback loops. They, as a result, don't see how crazy they make
themselves look to normal people.
People who disagree with your political opinions are not "nazis". You are
being unfair to the 50% of people who have a differing opinion.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 10:23 AM sducasseatwork--- via Pharo-users <
pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote:
Hello steven
We have a great community and we should not throw away the baby with the
water of the bath (sorry for english readers
I do not know if the direct translation of a french expression makes any
sense but you can probably get it).
We will do what we want and do not care about people that do not
contribute and not in a positive mindset.
Let us continue to make Pharo great and fun because it is a great and fun
system.
I will continue to focus on PRs that improve Pharo.
No need to reply to this thread because I put a filter to trash any emails
:)
S,
On 19 Feb 2025, at 11:35, Steven Costiou steven.costiou@kloum.io wrote:
This is how nazi work: they infiltrate communities and their only
contribution is to jump into discussions to fight anything related to
people wanting to be safe from their bullshit.
He did the same thing (with others) a few years ago for the code convenant
stuff.
He is doing this right now again.
The vocabulary is all there: "echo-chamber", "wrong political opinion",
"tolerant", "leftist"... just all the nazi words they try to impose in
community discussions.
Once we accept, we lose.
Nice and diplomatic discussions do not work with nazis.
So why are we tolerating this? He is not even contributing to Pharo.
Between this and the guy who harasses my students at ESUG, I wonder what
fucking bullshit community we have become.
I have nothing to do anymore in this community.
Steven.
Le 19/02/2025 à 11:06, Steve Quezadas a écrit :
Oh come on, BlueSky is TruthSocial for leftists. Twitter is FAR more
tolerant of differing viewpoints, andI am a leftist myself.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 1:38 AM Norbert Hartl norbert@hartl.name wrote:
I heard enough stories the other way round being on X with the "wrong
political opinion". It works either way. The way you experience it is not
so much an artefact of the social media platform but the mindset you have.
Norbert
Am 19.02.2025 um 10:00 schrieb Steve Quezadas steveeq1@gmail.com:
Bluesky is an echo chamber that will ban you for having the wrong
political opinion. Twitter is much more open to differing viewpoints.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 9:50 AM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.luna@mutabit.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
It's refreshing to see more people participating the so called #eXodus
and having better forms to connect.
Cheers,
Offray
On 14/02/25 9:11, Marcus Denker wrote:
Hello,
Bluesky:
https://bsky.app/profile/pharoproject.bsky.social
We are on Mastodon, too (since 2018!)
https://mastodon.social/@pharoproject
Marcus