Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro changes :
Added:
Fedora 37
Ubuntu 22.10
OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
Arch (Manjaro)
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
Fedora 32
Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro changes :
Added:
Fixed:
Removed (Obsoletes):
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond:
https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
yes, but for windows the recommended way is to use the pharo launcher installer : https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows
or, if you want to download the standalone VM: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip
Esteban
On Jan 4 2023, at 3:25 pm, Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com wrote:
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro changes :
Added:
Fedora 37
Ubuntu 22.10
OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
Arch (Manjaro)
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
Fedora 32
Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
I do use Pharo Launcher.
I really miss Home and End keys in Pharo right now.
Are there very few users of Pharo in Windows?
Aik-Siong
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
yes, but for windows the recommended way is to use the pharo launcher
installer : https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows
or, if you want to download the standalone VM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip
Esteban
On Jan 4 2023, at 3:25 pm, Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com wrote:
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro
changes :
Added:
*
Fedora 37
*
Ubuntu 22.10
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
*
Arch (Manjaro)
*
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
*
Fedora 32
*
Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond:
https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
Hi, in Schmidt, we use Pharo 11 on Windows and Home and End keys work for
us. Tested in the code editor and Calypso lists. Do you miss it in some
special context, or does it not work for you at all? Do you use some
different input methods? Or keyboard layouts are the boring European ones.
-- Pavel
st 4. 1. 2023 v 16:09 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com napsal:
I do use Pharo Launcher.
I really miss Home and End keys in Pharo right now.
Are there very few users of Pharo in Windows?
Aik-Siong
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
yes, but for windows the recommended way is to use the pharo launcher
installer : https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows
or, if you want to download the standalone VM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip
Esteban
On Jan 4 2023, at 3:25 pm, Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com
askoh@askoh.com wrote:
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro changes :
Added:
- Fedora 37
- Ubuntu 22.10
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
- Arch (Manjaro)
- OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
- Fedora 32
- Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond:
https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
Thanks for help.
I have an OMEN 17" notebook.
The keyboard has NumPad with Num Lock.
Superimposed on the numbers are Home, End, PgUp, etc.
When Num Lock is on, 1,2,3,4... works everywhere in Windows and apps.
When Num Lock is off, Home, End, PgUp, etc. work in Windows and every
app except in Pharo (9, 10 or 11).
In Pharo, pressing the Home key does nothing at all.
FYI. Above the Numpad are two keys: (HOME / PG UP) and (END / PG DN)
They work in Pharo with the FN key to get HOME and END.
I hope this helps.
Aik-Siong Koh
Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi, in Schmidt, we use Pharo 11 on Windows and Home and End keys work
for us. Tested in the code editor and Calypso lists. Do you miss it in
some special context, or does it not work for you at all? Do you use
some different input methods? Or keyboard layouts are the boring
European ones.
-- Pavel
st 4. 1. 2023 v 16:09 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh <askoh@askoh.com
mailto:askoh@askoh.com> napsal:
I do use Pharo Launcher.
I really miss Home and End keys in Pharo right now.
Are there very few users of Pharo in Windows?
Aik-Siong
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
yes, but for windows the recommended way is to use the pharo
launcher installer : https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows
or, if you want to download the standalone VM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip
Esteban
On Jan 4 2023, at 3:25 pm, Aik-Siong Koh <askoh@askoh.com>
<mailto:askoh@askoh.com> wrote:
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with
distro changes :
Added:
*
Fedora 37
*
Ubuntu 22.10
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
*
Arch (Manjaro)
*
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
*
OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
*
Fedora 32
*
Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond:
https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
Hi,
that is interesting issue. I have here a notebook with Numpad where I can
reproduce it. Pharo is getting information from SDL2 and there nothing
really seems to tell us that the incomming event is PgDown or similar key.
If I log incomming events in OSSDL2BackendWindow>>#visitKeyDownEvent:, I'm
getting these values:
Num 3
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(835757 a SDL_Keysym#(4096 91 1073741915) 768 1 1)
Num PgDown
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(860624 a SDL_Keysym#(0 91 1073741915) 768 1 1)
PgDown
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(886723 a SDL_Keysym#(0 78 1073741902) 768 1 1)
(ignore the first number, the values in SDL_Keysym are mod, scancode, sym)
So the information about the key event only differs in the Num Lock
modifier. It is way too low-level. I see now the only solution - to the the
ugly manual conversion, You may try to install the attached *.st file (drag
it on Pharo window and then choose to install).
I will open an issue.
Cheers,
-- Pavel
čt 5. 1. 2023 v 17:18 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com napsal:
Thanks for help.
I have an OMEN 17" notebook.
The keyboard has NumPad with Num Lock.
Superimposed on the numbers are Home, End, PgUp, etc.
When Num Lock is on, 1,2,3,4... works everywhere in Windows and apps.
When Num Lock is off, Home, End, PgUp, etc. work in Windows and every app
except in Pharo (9, 10 or 11).
In Pharo, pressing the Home key does nothing at all.
FYI. Above the Numpad are two keys: (HOME / PG UP) and (END / PG DN)
They work in Pharo with the FN key to get HOME and END.
I hope this helps.
Aik-Siong Koh
Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi, in Schmidt, we use Pharo 11 on Windows and Home and End keys work for
us. Tested in the code editor and Calypso lists. Do you miss it in some
special context, or does it not work for you at all? Do you use some
different input methods? Or keyboard layouts are the boring European ones.
-- Pavel
st 4. 1. 2023 v 16:09 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com napsal:
I do use Pharo Launcher.
I really miss Home and End keys in Pharo right now.
Are there very few users of Pharo in Windows?
Aik-Siong
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
yes, but for windows the recommended way is to use the pharo launcher
installer : https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows
or, if you want to download the standalone VM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip
Esteban
On Jan 4 2023, at 3:25 pm, Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com
askoh@askoh.com wrote:
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro changes :
Added:
- Fedora 37
- Ubuntu 22.10
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
- Arch (Manjaro)
- OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
- Fedora 32
- Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond:
https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
Hi Pavel,
thanks for looking into this.
Why not adding those mappings in the table so they are mapped by self mapSpecialCharacter: keysym sym
?
G
El 6 ene. 2023, a las 08:53, Pavel Krivanek pavel.krivanek@gmail.com escribió:
Hi,
that is interesting issue. I have here a notebook with Numpad where I can reproduce it. Pharo is getting information from SDL2 and there nothing really seems to tell us that the incomming event is PgDown or similar key.
If I log incomming events in OSSDL2BackendWindow>>#visitKeyDownEvent:, I'm getting these values:
Num 3
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(835757 a SDL_Keysym#(4096 91 1073741915) 768 1 1)
Num PgDown
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(860624 a SDL_Keysym#(0 91 1073741915) 768 1 1)
PgDown
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(886723 a SDL_Keysym#(0 78 1073741902) 768 1 1)
(ignore the first number, the values in SDL_Keysym are mod, scancode, sym)
So the information about the key event only differs in the Num Lock modifier. It is way too low-level. I see now the only solution - to the the ugly manual conversion, You may try to install the attached *.st file (drag it on Pharo window and then choose to install).
I will open an issue.
Cheers,
-- Pavel
čt 5. 1. 2023 v 17:18 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh <askoh@askoh.com mailto:askoh@askoh.com> napsal:
Thanks for help.
I have an OMEN 17" notebook.
The keyboard has NumPad with Num Lock.
Superimposed on the numbers are Home, End, PgUp, etc.
When Num Lock is on, 1,2,3,4... works everywhere in Windows and apps.
When Num Lock is off, Home, End, PgUp, etc. work in Windows and every app except in Pharo (9, 10 or 11).
In Pharo, pressing the Home key does nothing at all.
FYI. Above the Numpad are two keys: (HOME / PG UP) and (END / PG DN)
They work in Pharo with the FN key to get HOME and END.
I hope this helps.
Aik-Siong Koh
Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi, in Schmidt, we use Pharo 11 on Windows and Home and End keys work for us. Tested in the code editor and Calypso lists. Do you miss it in some special context, or does it not work for you at all? Do you use some different input methods? Or keyboard layouts are the boring European ones.
-- Pavel
st 4. 1. 2023 v 16:09 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh <askoh@askoh.com mailto:askoh@askoh.com> napsal:
I do use Pharo Launcher.
I really miss Home and End keys in Pharo right now.
Are there very few users of Pharo in Windows?
Aik-Siong
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
yes, but for windows the recommended way is to use the pharo launcher installer : https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows
or, if you want to download the standalone VM: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip
Esteban
On Jan 4 2023, at 3:25 pm, Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com mailto:askoh@askoh.com wrote:
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro changes :
Added:
Fedora 37
Ubuntu 22.10
OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
Arch (Manjaro)
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
Fedora 32
Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
<OSSDL2BackendWindow-visitKeyDownEvent...st>
Hi,
út 10. 1. 2023 v 12:06 odesílatel Guillermo Polito <
guillermopolito@gmail.com> napsal:
Hi Pavel,
thanks for looking into this.
Why not adding those mappings in the table so they are mapped by self mapSpecialCharacter: keysym sym
?
This method does not take into account NumLock status and just converts the
character. But we may consider creating some table for it instead of just a
row of ifs. Originally, I expected to need to convert only four keys, so
the table would be a slower overkill, but now it may make sense. But maybe
it may make sense to create an even more general table that would handle
the conversion of any key, including various modifiers.
Let's move the conversation to the PR discussion:
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/12258
-- Pavel
G
El 6 ene. 2023, a las 08:53, Pavel Krivanek pavel.krivanek@gmail.com
escribió:
Hi,
that is interesting issue. I have here a notebook with Numpad where I can
reproduce it. Pharo is getting information from SDL2 and there nothing
really seems to tell us that the incomming event is PgDown or similar key.
If I log incomming events in OSSDL2BackendWindow>>#visitKeyDownEvent:, I'm
getting these values:
Num 3
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(835757 a SDL_Keysym#(4096 91 1073741915) 768 1
1)
Num PgDown
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(860624 a SDL_Keysym#(0 91 1073741915) 768 1 1)
PgDown
a SDL_KeyDownEventan Array(886723 a SDL_Keysym#(0 78 1073741902) 768 1 1)
(ignore the first number, the values in SDL_Keysym are mod, scancode, sym)
So the information about the key event only differs in the Num Lock
modifier. It is way too low-level. I see now the only solution - to the the
ugly manual conversion, You may try to install the attached *.st file (drag
it on Pharo window and then choose to install).
I will open an issue.
Cheers,
-- Pavel
čt 5. 1. 2023 v 17:18 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com napsal:
Thanks for help.
I have an OMEN 17" notebook.
The keyboard has NumPad with Num Lock.
Superimposed on the numbers are Home, End, PgUp, etc.
When Num Lock is on, 1,2,3,4... works everywhere in Windows and apps.
When Num Lock is off, Home, End, PgUp, etc. work in Windows and every app
except in Pharo (9, 10 or 11).
In Pharo, pressing the Home key does nothing at all.
FYI. Above the Numpad are two keys: (HOME / PG UP) and (END / PG DN)
They work in Pharo with the FN key to get HOME and END.
I hope this helps.
Aik-Siong Koh
Pavel Krivanek wrote:
Hi, in Schmidt, we use Pharo 11 on Windows and Home and End keys work for
us. Tested in the code editor and Calypso lists. Do you miss it in some
special context, or does it not work for you at all? Do you use some
different input methods? Or keyboard layouts are the boring European ones.
-- Pavel
st 4. 1. 2023 v 16:09 odesílatel Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com napsal:
I do use Pharo Launcher.
I really miss Home and End keys in Pharo right now.
Are there very few users of Pharo in Windows?
Aik-Siong
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
yes, but for windows the recommended way is to use the pharo launcher
installer : https://files.pharo.org/pharo-launcher/windows
or, if you want to download the standalone VM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/100/pharo-vm-Windows-x86_64-stable.zip
Esteban
On Jan 4 2023, at 3:25 pm, Aik-Siong Koh askoh@askoh.com
askoh@askoh.com wrote:
Does Windows get as good support as Linux or Mac?
I am waiting for the Home and End key to work on Windows.
Thanks,
Aik-Siong Koh
Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
Hi,
I updated linux OBS builds to get it up to date with distro changes :
Added:
- Fedora 37
- Ubuntu 22.10
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.3
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.4
Fixed:
- Arch (Manjaro)
- OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
Removed (Obsoletes):
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.1
- OpenSUSE Leap 15.2
- Fedora 32
- Fedora 33
You can test all the new/fixed as correspond:
https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=devel%3Alanguages%3Apharo%3Alatest&package=pharo9-ui
Enjoy,
Esteban
<OSSDL2BackendWindow-visitKeyDownEvent...st>