DP
David Pennington
Tue, May 18, 2021 1:53 PM
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
David
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
David
HV
Harald VICAIRE
Wed, May 19, 2021 5:06 AM
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save
the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to
download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new
one there. What do I do please?
David
Hi David,
I do not own a M1 macBook but I read on discord that people are
successfully using it.
You might to take a look at :
https://thepharo.dev/2021/02/16/first-apple-m1-pharo-version/
I think that you can download the last version here (instead ot the one
given in the link above) :
http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64-headless/Darwin-arm64/
I'm afraid you'll need to find a M1 user if these links do not help you (come
on discord <https://discord.gg/QewZMZa> to find some)
Cheers,
Harald
Le mer. 19 mai 2021 à 01:54, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> a
écrit :
> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save
> the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to
> download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new
> one there. What do I do please?
>
> David
T
tesonep@gmail.com
Wed, May 19, 2021 7:38 AM
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero
Conf or directly.
For the latest:
For the stable:
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires
changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport
the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of
Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities
but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future
versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the
architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta,
although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com
wrote:
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save
the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to
download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new
one there. What do I do please?
David
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero
Conf or directly.
For the latest:
- wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
- http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
For the stable:
- wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vm90 | bash
- http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires
changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport
the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of
Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities
but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future
versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the
architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta,
although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com>
wrote:
> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save
> the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to
> download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new
> one there. What do I do please?
>
> David
--
Pablo Tesone.
tesonep@gmail.com
DP
David Pennington
Fri, May 21, 2021 11:16 AM
I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
How do I use Zero Conf?
I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
Sorry for being stupid.
David
P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
For the latest:
For the stable:
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com mailto:david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
David
--
Pablo Tesone.
tesonep@gmail.com mailto:tesonep@gmail.com
I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
How do I use Zero Conf?
I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
Sorry for being stupid.
David
P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
> On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
>
> For the latest:
> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 <https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90> | bash
> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip>
>
> For the stable:
> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vm90 <https://get.pharo.org/vm90> | bash
> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip>
>
> If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
>
> For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
>
> In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
>
> Tell me if you have any problem.
> Cheers,
> Pablo
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com <mailto:david@totallyobjects.com>> wrote:
> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
>
> David
>
>
> --
> Pablo Tesone.
> tesonep@gmail.com <mailto:tesonep@gmail.com>
SD
Stéphane Ducasse
Fri, May 21, 2021 11:31 AM
On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:
I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
How do I use Zero Conf?
I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
Sorry for being stupid.
David
P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com mailto:tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
For the latest:
For the stable:
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com mailto:david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
David
--
Pablo Tesone.
tesonep@gmail.com mailto:tesonep@gmail.com
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
you execute on a unix shell
wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 <https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90> | bash
S
> On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>
> I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
>
> How do I use Zero Conf?
>
> I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
>
> Sorry for being stupid.
>
> David
> P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
>
>> On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com <mailto:tesonep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
>>
>> For the latest:
>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 <https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90> | bash
>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip>
>>
>> For the stable:
>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vm90 <https://get.pharo.org/vm90> | bash
>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip>
>>
>> If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
>>
>> For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
>>
>> In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
>>
>> Tell me if you have any problem.
>> Cheers,
>> Pablo
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com <mailto:david@totallyobjects.com>> wrote:
>> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> --
>> Pablo Tesone.
>> tesonep@gmail.com <mailto:tesonep@gmail.com>
--------------------------------------------
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
DP
David Pennington
Fri, May 21, 2021 2:31 PM
This is a bit like pulling teeth.
I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
--2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23, 164.132.235.17
Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5177 (5.1K)
Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
Downloading the latest pharoVM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
Where do I go next?
On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com mailto:david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
How do I use Zero Conf?
I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
Sorry for being stupid.
David
P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com mailto:tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
For the latest:
For the stable:
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com mailto:david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
David
--
Pablo Tesone.
tesonep@gmail.com mailto:tesonep@gmail.com
This is a bit like pulling teeth.
I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
--2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23, 164.132.235.17
Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5177 (5.1K)
Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
- 100%[===================>] 5.06K --.-KB/s in 0s
2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
Downloading the latest pharoVM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
Where do I go next?
> On 21 May 2021, at 12:31, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
>
> you execute on a unix shell
>
> wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 <https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90> | bash
>
> S
>
>> On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com <mailto:david@totallyobjects.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
>>
>> How do I use Zero Conf?
>>
>> I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
>>
>> Sorry for being stupid.
>>
>> David
>> P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
>>
>>> On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com <mailto:tesonep@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
>>>
>>> For the latest:
>>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 <https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90> | bash
>>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip>
>>>
>>> For the stable:
>>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vm90 <https://get.pharo.org/vm90> | bash
>>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip <http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip>
>>>
>>> If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
>>>
>>> For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
>>>
>>> Tell me if you have any problem.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pablo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com <mailto:david@totallyobjects.com>> wrote:
>>> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Pablo Tesone.
>>> tesonep@gmail.com <mailto:tesonep@gmail.com>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Stéphane Ducasse
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/>
> 03 59 35 87 52
> Assistant: Aurore Dalle
> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
> S. Ducasse - Inria
> 40, avenue Halley,
> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
> France
>
SV
Sven Van Caekenberghe
Fri, May 21, 2021 4:01 PM
You start an image by typing the following in the Terminal
./pharo-ui Pharo.image
On 21 May 2021, at 16:31, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:
This is a bit like pulling teeth.
I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
--2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23, 164.132.235.17
Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5177 (5.1K)
Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
Downloading the latest pharoVM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
Where do I go next?
On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:
I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
How do I use Zero Conf?
I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
Sorry for being stupid.
David
P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
For the latest:
For the stable:
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
David
--
Pablo Tesone.
tesonep@gmail.com
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
You start an image by typing the following in the Terminal
./pharo-ui Pharo.image
> On 21 May 2021, at 16:31, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>
> This is a bit like pulling teeth.
>
> I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
>
> davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
> --2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
> Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23, 164.132.235.17
> Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 5177 (5.1K)
> Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
>
> - 100%[===================>] 5.06K --.-KB/s in 0s
>
> 2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
>
> Downloading the latest pharoVM:
> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
> pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
> Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
>
> Where do I go next?
>
>
>> On 21 May 2021, at 12:31, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
>>
>> you execute on a unix shell
>>
>> wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
>>
>> S
>>
>>> On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
>>>
>>> How do I use Zero Conf?
>>>
>>> I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
>>>
>>> Sorry for being stupid.
>>>
>>> David
>>> P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
>>>
>>>> On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
>>>>
>>>> For the latest:
>>>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
>>>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
>>>>
>>>> For the stable:
>>>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vm90 | bash
>>>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip
>>>>
>>>> If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
>>>>
>>>> For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
>>>>
>>>> In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
>>>>
>>>> Tell me if you have any problem.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Pablo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Pablo Tesone.
>>>> tesonep@gmail.com
>>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Stéphane Ducasse
>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
>> 03 59 35 87 52
>> Assistant: Aurore Dalle
>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
>> S. Ducasse - Inria
>> 40, avenue Halley,
>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
>> France
>>
>
DP
David Pennington
Sat, May 22, 2021 4:38 PM
Here is a crop from my Terminal app.
As you can see it has an error. Sorry to keep bothering you but what next please?
David
On 21 May 2021, at 17:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe sven@stfx.eu wrote:
You start an image by typing the following in the Terminal
./pharo-ui Pharo.image
On 21 May 2021, at 16:31, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:
This is a bit like pulling teeth.
I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
--2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23, 164.132.235.17
Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5177 (5.1K)
Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
Downloading the latest pharoVM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
Where do I go next?
On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:
I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
How do I use Zero Conf?
I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
Sorry for being stupid.
David
P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
For the latest:
For the stable:
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com wrote:
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
David
--
Pablo Tesone.
tesonep@gmail.com
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
Here is a crop from my Terminal app.
As you can see it has an error. Sorry to keep bothering you but what next please?
David
> On 21 May 2021, at 17:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
>
> You start an image by typing the following in the Terminal
>
> ./pharo-ui Pharo.image
>
>> On 21 May 2021, at 16:31, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>>
>> This is a bit like pulling teeth.
>>
>> I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
>>
>> davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
>> --2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
>> Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23, 164.132.235.17
>> Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443... connected.
>> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
>> Length: 5177 (5.1K)
>> Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
>>
>> - 100%[===================>] 5.06K --.-KB/s in 0s
>>
>> 2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
>>
>> Downloading the latest pharoVM:
>> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
>> pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
>> Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
>>
>> Where do I go next?
>>
>>
>>> On 21 May 2021, at 12:31, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> you execute on a unix shell
>>>
>>> wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
>>>
>>> S
>>>
>>>> On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over my head.
>>>>
>>>> How do I use Zero Conf?
>>>>
>>>> I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1 VM for that?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for being stupid.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over me - smile.
>>>>
>>>>> On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero Conf or directly.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the latest:
>>>>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
>>>>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> For the stable:
>>>>> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vm90 | bash
>>>>> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
>>>>>
>>>>> For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the architecture.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta, although the performance is not ideal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell me if you have any problem.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Pablo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new one there. What do I do please?
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Pablo Tesone.
>>>>> tesonep@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> Stéphane Ducasse
>>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
>>> 03 59 35 87 52
>>> Assistant: Aurore Dalle
>>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
>>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
>>> S. Ducasse - Inria
>>> 40, avenue Halley,
>>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
>>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
>>> France
>>>
>>
GC
Gabriel Cotelli
Sat, May 22, 2021 5:34 PM
Here is a crop from my Terminal app.
As you can see it has an error. Sorry to keep bothering you but what next
please?
David
On 21 May 2021, at 17:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe sven@stfx.eu wrote:
You start an image by typing the following in the Terminal
./pharo-ui Pharo.image
On 21 May 2021, at 16:31, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com
wrote:
This is a bit like pulling teeth.
I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
| bash
--2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23,
164.132.235.17
Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443...
connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 5177 (5.1K)
Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
Downloading the latest pharoVM:
http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
Where do I go next?
On 21 May 2021, at 12:31, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:
you execute on a unix shell
wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
S
On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com
wrote:
I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over
my head.
How do I use Zero Conf?
I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1
VM for that?
Sorry for being stupid.
David
P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over
me - smile.
On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero
Conf or directly.
For the latest:
For the stable:
If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires
changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport
the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of
Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities
but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future
versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the
architecture.
In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta,
although the performance is not ideal.
Tell me if you have any problem.
Cheers,
Pablo
On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington david@totallyobjects.com
wrote:
Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save
the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to
download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new
one there. What do I do please?
David
--
Pablo Tesone.
tesonep@gmail.com
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
David with the script Stef showed you just downloaded the VM. If you want
to download the image also you can use https://get.pharo.org/90+vmLatest .
By the way, going to http://get.pharo.org/ you will get a complete list of
the available options.
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 1:39 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com>
wrote:
> Here is a crop from my Terminal app.
>
>
> As you can see it has an error. Sorry to keep bothering you but what next
> please?
> David
>
> On 21 May 2021, at 17:01, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
>
> You start an image by typing the following in the Terminal
>
> ./pharo-ui Pharo.image
>
> On 21 May 2021, at 16:31, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com>
> wrote:
>
> This is a bit like pulling teeth.
>
> I have done what you said. I now have the following in Terminal
>
> davidpennington@Davids-Air ~ % wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
> | bash
> --2021-05-21 15:24:47-- https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90
> Resolving get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)... 2001:41d0:301::23,
> 164.132.235.17
> Connecting to get.pharo.org (get.pharo.org)|2001:41d0:301::23|:443...
> connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 5177 (5.1K)
> Saving to: ‘STDOUT’
>
> - 100%[===================>] 5.06K --.-KB/s in 0s
>
>
> 2021-05-21 15:24:47 (823 MB/s) - written to stdout [5177/5177]
>
> Downloading the latest pharoVM:
> http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
> pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo
> Creating starter scripts pharo and pharo-ui
>
> Where do I go next?
>
>
> On 21 May 2021, at 12:31, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
> wrote:
>
> you execute on a unix shell
>
> wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
>
> S
>
> On 21 May 2021, at 13:16, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com>
> wrote:
>
> I am sorry but, being a newbie to Pharo, a lot of what you say goes over
> my head.
>
> How do I use Zero Conf?
>
> I have loaded up the latest 9.0 from Pharo launcher. How do I get the <1
> VM for that?
>
> Sorry for being stupid.
>
> David
> P.S. 31 years a Smalltalker so its just the underlying bits that pass over
> me - smile.
>
> On 19 May 2021, at 08:38, tesonep@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> for M1 we have Pharo 9 compatible VMs, you can download them using Zero
> Conf or directly.
>
> For the latest:
> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vmLatest90 | bash
> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-latest.zip
>
> For the stable:
> - wget -O - https://get.pharo.org/vm90 | bash
> - http://files.pharo.org/get-files/90/pharo-vm-Darwin-arm64-stable.zip
>
> If you are scripting the download I recommend using ZeroConf.
>
> For Pharo 8, we don't have a M1 native version, because Pharo 8 requires
> changes in the image to support the newer VMs. We have plans to backport
> the changes in the future, now we are putting all efforts in the release of
> Pharo 9. However, if the community consider it, we can switch priorities
> but it is not magical; we will need to leave something aside. Also, future
> versions of the Pharo Launcher will have support for detecting the
> architecture.
>
> In the meantime, Pharo 8 / 9 can be used without a problem with Rossetta,
> although the performance is not ideal.
>
> Tell me if you have any problem.
> Cheers,
> Pablo
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 3:54 PM David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com>
> wrote:
> Hi there. I am currently using v8.0 on a new M1 MacBookAir. When I save
> the image I keep getting a message telling me that my VM is too old and to
> download a new one. I have looked in my Pharo Launcher but there is no new
> one there. What do I do please?
>
> David
>
>
> --
> Pablo Tesone.
> tesonep@gmail.com
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Stéphane Ducasse
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
> 03 59 35 87 52
> Assistant: Aurore Dalle
> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
> S. Ducasse - Inria
> 40, avenue Halley,
> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
> France
>
>
>
>
SD
Stéphane Ducasse
Sat, May 22, 2021 5:54 PM
David
There is no magic.
You should also consider that pharo-ui is a shell script and that you can also read it and learn.
The vm is an executable and it needs an image and it cannot guess where you put it.
S.
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
David
There is no magic.
You should also consider that pharo-ui is a shell script and that you can also read it and learn.
The vm is an executable and it needs an image and it cannot guess where you put it.
S.
> On 22 May 2021, at 18:38, David Pennington <david@totallyobjects.com> wrote:
>
> <pharo.png>
--------------------------------------------
Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France