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ST

Samuel Teixeira Santos

Wed, Nov 13, 2024 1:34 PM

True, Thanks for reminding me

GF

giorgio ferraris

Thu, Jan 30, 2025 4:51 PM

hello!,

Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it
still seems that is written in French.

happy smalltalking

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <
koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Hi Giorgio,

Thank you for reporting the issue.

Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed
yet.

Best regards,
Koen

On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com
wrote:

hello,

The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error?

thanks

ciao

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <
koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Dear Pharo users and developers,

It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I
am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application
building in Pharo with Spec 2.0.

I wrote a blog post about it
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9. Happy reading!

Ciao,
Koen

hello!, Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French. happy smalltalking giorgio On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt < koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: > Hi Giorgio, > > Thank you for reporting the issue. > > Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed > yet. > > Best regards, > Koen > > On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> > wrote: > > hello, > > The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error? > > thanks > > ciao > > giorgio > > <Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 12.25.47.png> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt < > koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: > >> Dear Pharo users and developers, >> >> It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I >> am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application >> building in Pharo with Spec 2.0. >> >> I wrote a blog post about it >> <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9>. Happy reading! >> >> Ciao, >> Koen >> > >

SD

stephane ducasse

Sat, Feb 1, 2025 4:06 PM

Thanks.
Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more.

This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when
you have to manage the books.

S

On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com wrote:

hello!,

Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French.

happy smalltalking

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Hi Giorgio,

Thank you for reporting the issue.

Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet.

Best regards,
Koen

On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> wrote:

hello,

The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error?

thanks

ciao

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Dear Pharo users and developers,

It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0.

I wrote a blog post about it https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9. Happy reading!

Ciao,
Koen

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
06 30 93 66 73

"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

Thanks. Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more. This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when you have to manage the books. S > On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> wrote: > > hello!, > > Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French. > > happy smalltalking > > > giorgio > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st <mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st>> wrote: >> Hi Giorgio, >> >> Thank you for reporting the issue. >> >> Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet. >> >> Best regards, >> Koen >> >>> On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com <mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> hello, >>> >>> The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> ciao >>> >>> giorgio >>> >>> <Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 12.25.47.png> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st <mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st>> wrote: >>>> Dear Pharo users and developers, >>>> >>>> It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0. >>>> >>>> I wrote a blog post about it <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9>. Happy reading! >>>> >>>> Ciao, >>>> Koen >> Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr 06 30 93 66 73 "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

MO

Mark O'Donoghue

Sat, Feb 1, 2025 10:51 PM

Congratulation Stephane on completing this book.

I feel it is crucial. It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or
returning programmers to get what they need with a UI for their Pharo
programs.

For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues.

Cheers
Mark

On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, 12:07 am stephane ducasse, stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:

Thanks.
Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took
me around 4 years or more.

This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell
you that you can feel it when
you have to manage the books.

S

On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com
wrote:

hello!,

Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it
still seems that is written in French.

happy smalltalking

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <
koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Hi Giorgio,

Thank you for reporting the issue.

Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed
yet.

Best regards,
Koen

On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com
wrote:

hello,

The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error?

thanks

ciao

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <
koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Dear Pharo users and developers,

It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I
am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application
building in Pharo with Spec 2.0.

I wrote a blog post about it
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9. Happy reading!

Ciao,
Koen

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
06 30 93 66 73

"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today
might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

Congratulation Stephane on completing this book. I feel it is crucial. It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or returning programmers to get what they need with a UI for their Pharo programs. For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues. Cheers Mark On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, 12:07 am stephane ducasse, <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: > Thanks. > Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took > me around 4 years or more. > > This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell > you that you can feel it when > you have to manage the books. > > S > > On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> > wrote: > > hello!, > > Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it > still seems that is written in French. > > happy smalltalking > > > giorgio > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt < > koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: > >> Hi Giorgio, >> >> Thank you for reporting the issue. >> >> Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed >> yet. >> >> Best regards, >> Koen >> >> On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> hello, >> >> The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error? >> >> thanks >> >> ciao >> >> giorgio >> >> <Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 12.25.47.png> >> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt < >> koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: >> >>> Dear Pharo users and developers, >>> >>> It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I >>> am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application >>> building in Pharo with Spec 2.0. >>> >>> I wrote a blog post about it >>> <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9>. Happy reading! >>> >>> Ciao, >>> Koen >>> >> >> > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > 06 30 93 66 73 > > "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do > differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today > might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes > > > > > >

GF

giorgio ferraris

Sun, Feb 2, 2025 10:11 AM

Thanks for writing the book, Stefan (and all the other guys)

ciao

giorgio

On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 5:07 PM stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
wrote:

Thanks.
Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took
me around 4 years or more.

This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell
you that you can feel it when
you have to manage the books.

S

On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com
wrote:

hello!,

Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it
still seems that is written in French.

happy smalltalking

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <
koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Hi Giorgio,

Thank you for reporting the issue.

Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed
yet.

Best regards,
Koen

On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com
wrote:

hello,

The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error?

thanks

ciao

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <
koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Dear Pharo users and developers,

It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I
am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application
building in Pharo with Spec 2.0.

I wrote a blog post about it
https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9. Happy reading!

Ciao,
Koen

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
06 30 93 66 73

"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today
might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

Thanks for writing the book, Stefan (and all the other guys) ciao giorgio On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 5:07 PM stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: > Thanks. > Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took > me around 4 years or more. > > This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell > you that you can feel it when > you have to manage the books. > > S > > On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> > wrote: > > hello!, > > Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it > still seems that is written in French. > > happy smalltalking > > > giorgio > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt < > koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: > >> Hi Giorgio, >> >> Thank you for reporting the issue. >> >> Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed >> yet. >> >> Best regards, >> Koen >> >> On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> hello, >> >> The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error? >> >> thanks >> >> ciao >> >> giorgio >> >> <Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 12.25.47.png> >> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt < >> koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: >> >>> Dear Pharo users and developers, >>> >>> It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I >>> am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application >>> building in Pharo with Spec 2.0. >>> >>> I wrote a blog post about it >>> <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9>. Happy reading! >>> >>> Ciao, >>> Koen >>> >> >> > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > 06 30 93 66 73 > > "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do > differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today > might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes > > > > > >

SD

stephane ducasse

Thu, Feb 6, 2025 5:11 PM

Thanks.
I have some other books under preparation :)

S

On 1 Feb 2025, at 23:51, Mark O'Donoghue mark.odonoghue.2010@gmail.com wrote:

Congratulation Stephane on completing this book.

I feel it is crucial. It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or returning programmers to get what they need with a UI for their Pharo programs.

For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues.

Cheers
Mark

On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, 12:07 am stephane ducasse, <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

Thanks.
Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more.

This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when
you have to manage the books.

S

On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> wrote:

hello!,

Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French.

happy smalltalking

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Hi Giorgio,

Thank you for reporting the issue.

Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet.

Best regards,
Koen

On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> wrote:

hello,

The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error?

thanks

ciao

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote:

Dear Pharo users and developers,

It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0.

I wrote a blog post about it https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9. Happy reading!

Ciao,
Koen

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/
06 30 93 66 73

"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
06 30 93 66 73

"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

Thanks. I have some other books under preparation :) S > On 1 Feb 2025, at 23:51, Mark O'Donoghue <mark.odonoghue.2010@gmail.com> wrote: > > Congratulation Stephane on completing this book. > > I feel it is crucial. It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or returning programmers to get what they need with a UI for their Pharo programs. > > For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues. > > Cheers > Mark > > On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, 12:07 am stephane ducasse, <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: >> Thanks. >> Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more. >> >> This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when >> you have to manage the books. >> >> S >> >>> On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com <mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> hello!, >>> >>> Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French. >>> >>> happy smalltalking >>> >>> >>> giorgio >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st <mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st>> wrote: >>>> Hi Giorgio, >>>> >>>> Thank you for reporting the issue. >>>> >>>> Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Koen >>>> >>>>> On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com <mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> hello, >>>>> >>>>> The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error? >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> ciao >>>>> >>>>> giorgio >>>>> >>>>> <Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 12.25.47.png> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st <mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st>> wrote: >>>>>> Dear Pharo users and developers, >>>>>> >>>>>> It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wrote a blog post about it <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9>. Happy reading! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ciao, >>>>>> Koen >>>> >> >> Stéphane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> >> 06 30 93 66 73 >> >> "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes >> >> >> >> >> Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr 06 30 93 66 73 "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

MO

mark.odonoghue.2010@gmail.com

Wed, Feb 12, 2025 12:24 PM

Congratulation Stephane on completing this book.

I feel it is crucial.

It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or returning programmers to get the UI they need for their Pharo programs.

For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues.

Cheers

Mark

PS

Now if some clever person could write a UI builder that would be even better!

(eg like Dolphin, Enfin/2 used to have..)

Such tools are such valuable time savers.

From: giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2025 6:12 PM
To: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: "Book release: Application Building with Spec 2.0" — New blog post on all: objects all: theTime

Thanks for writing the book, Stefan (and all the other guys)

ciao

giorgio

On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 5:07 PM stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > wrote:

Thanks.

Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more.

This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when

you have to manage the books.

S

On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com > wrote:

hello!,

Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French.

happy smalltalking

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st > wrote:

Hi Giorgio,

Thank you for reporting the issue.

Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet.

Best regards,

Koen

On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com > wrote:

hello,

The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error?

thanks

ciao

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st > wrote:

Dear Pharo users and developers,

It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0.

I wrote a blog post about it https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9 . Happy reading!

Ciao,

Koen

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
06 30 93 66 73

"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

Congratulation Stephane on completing this book. I feel it is crucial. It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or returning programmers to get the UI they need for their Pharo programs. For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues. Cheers Mark PS Now if some clever person could write a UI builder that would be even better! (eg like Dolphin, Enfin/2 used to have..) Such tools are such valuable time savers. From: giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2025 6:12 PM To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: "Book release: Application Building with Spec 2.0" — New blog post on all: objects all: theTime Thanks for writing the book, Stefan (and all the other guys) ciao giorgio On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 5:07 PM stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> > wrote: Thanks. Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more. This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when you have to manage the books. S On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com <mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> > wrote: hello!, Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French. happy smalltalking giorgio On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st <mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> > wrote: Hi Giorgio, Thank you for reporting the issue. Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet. Best regards, Koen On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com <mailto:giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> > wrote: hello, The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error? thanks ciao giorgio <Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 12.25.47.png> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st <mailto:koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> > wrote: Dear Pharo users and developers, It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0. I wrote a blog post about it <https://all-objects-all-the-time.st/#/blog/posts/9> . Happy reading! Ciao, Koen Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr 06 30 93 66 73 "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

RO

Richard O'Keefe

Thu, Feb 13, 2025 12:59 AM

Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal?

On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 01:25, mark.odonoghue.2010@gmail.com wrote:

Congratulation Stephane on completing this book.

I feel it is crucial.

It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or returning programmers to get the UI they need for their Pharo programs.

For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues.

Cheers

Mark

PS

Now if some clever person could write a UI builder that would be even better!

(eg like Dolphin, Enfin/2 used to have..)

Such tools are such valuable time savers.

From: giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2025 6:12 PM
To: Any question about pharo is welcome pharo-users@lists.pharo.org
Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: "Book release: Application Building with Spec 2.0" — New blog post on all: objects all: theTime

Thanks for writing the book, Stefan (and all the other guys)

ciao

giorgio

On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 5:07 PM stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:

Thanks.

Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more.

This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when

you have to manage the books.

S

On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com wrote:

hello!,

Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French.

happy smalltalking

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st wrote:

Hi Giorgio,

Thank you for reporting the issue.

Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet.

Best regards,

Koen

On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com wrote:

hello,

The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error?

thanks

ciao

giorgio

On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st wrote:

Dear Pharo users and developers,

It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0.

I wrote a blog post about it. Happy reading!

Ciao,

Koen

Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr
06 30 93 66 73

"If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal? On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 01:25, <mark.odonoghue.2010@gmail.com> wrote: > > Congratulation Stephane on completing this book. > > > > I feel it is crucial. > > It removes a major hurdle for new, part time and/or returning programmers to get the UI they need for their Pharo programs. > > > > For me, it also helps me advocating for Pharo with my colleagues. > > > > Cheers > > Mark > > > > PS > > Now if some clever person could write a UI builder that would be even better! > > (eg like Dolphin, Enfin/2 used to have..) > > Such tools are such valuable time savers. > > > > > > From: giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2025 6:12 PM > To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-users] Re: "Book release: Application Building with Spec 2.0" — New blog post on all: objects all: theTime > > > > Thanks for writing the book, Stefan (and all the other guys) > > > > ciao > > > > giorgio > > > > On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 5:07 PM stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: > > Thanks. > > Writing this book was a daunting huge difficult exhausting task that took me around 4 years or more. > > > > This publisher is managed using a not so great Php software and I can tell you that you can feel it when > > you have to manage the books. > > > > S > > > > On 30 Jan 2025, at 17:51, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > hello!, > > > > Thank you for the answer, I ordered the book today, please note that it still seems that is written in French. > > > > happy smalltalking > > > > > > giorgio > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 1:23 PM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: > > Hi Giorgio, > > > > Thank you for reporting the issue. > > > > Yes, it is an error. We saw it a few days ago, but it has not been fixed yet. > > > > Best regards, > > Koen > > > > On 7 Nov 2024, at 12:27, giorgio ferraris <giorgio.ferraris@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > hello, > > > > The Amazon site says that the language is French. Is that an error? > > > > thanks > > > > ciao > > > > giorgio > > > > <Screenshot 2024-11-07 at 12.25.47.png> > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:32 AM Koen De Hondt <koen@all-objects-all-the-time.st> wrote: > > Dear Pharo users and developers, > > > > It required an enormous effort to review, rewrite, and extend it, but I am happy to announce that it is finally here: the book on application building in Pharo with Spec 2.0. > > > > I wrote a blog post about it. Happy reading! > > > > Ciao, > > Koen > > > > > > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > 06 30 93 66 73 > > "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes > > > >

KO

Kasper Osterbye

Thu, Feb 13, 2025 7:02 AM

On 13 Feb 2025, at 01.59, Richard O'Keefe raoknz@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal?

I have been overusing chatgpt, which gave this answer (which I checked and seems rather reasonable):
Question:

“Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal? It’s related to Pharo programming.”

Answer:

Yes, there is a book that describes the current version of Roassal:

• 📖 “Agile Visualization with Pharo” by Alexandre Bergel.

This book focuses on the Roassal visualization engine and provides the essential tools for visualizing data in Pharo.

➡️ Amazon link https://www.amazon.com/Agile-Visualization-Pharo-Crafting-Interactive/dp/1484271602

For more up-to-date documentation, you can also check out the official GitHub repository:

• 🛠️ Roassal on GitHub:

This repository contains the source code, examples, and documentation for Roassal.

➡️ GitHub link https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Roassal
These resources should give a solid understanding of the current version of Roassal in Pharo.

But perhaps there is a book it did not find…

— Kasper

> On 13 Feb 2025, at 01.59, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal? I have been overusing chatgpt, which gave this answer (which I checked and seems rather reasonable): Question: “Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal? It’s related to Pharo programming.” Answer: Yes, there is a book that describes the current version of Roassal: • 📖 “Agile Visualization with Pharo” by Alexandre Bergel. This book focuses on the Roassal visualization engine and provides the essential tools for visualizing data in Pharo. ➡️ Amazon link <https://www.amazon.com/Agile-Visualization-Pharo-Crafting-Interactive/dp/1484271602> For more up-to-date documentation, you can also check out the official GitHub repository: • 🛠️ Roassal on GitHub: This repository contains the source code, examples, and documentation for Roassal. ➡️ GitHub link <https://github.com/pharo-graphics/Roassal> These resources should give a solid understanding of the current version of Roassal in Pharo. But perhaps there is a book it did not find… — Kasper

RO

Richard O'Keefe

Thu, Feb 13, 2025 10:40 AM

As is commonly the case, ChatGPT is highly plausible but completely wrong.
The current version is Roassal3. "Agile Visualisation" is about Roassal2.
From the examples I've seen, none of the code in the book works in the new
version. The classes have different prefixes. I was hoping that there was a
new edition of the book to go with the new version of the code.

On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 20:02, Kasper Osterbye kasper.osterbye@gmail.com wrote:

On 13 Feb 2025, at 01.59, Richard O'Keefe raoknz@gmail.com wrote:

Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal?

I have been overusing chatgpt, which gave this answer (which I checked and seems rather reasonable):

Question:

“Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal? It’s related to Pharo programming.”

Answer:

Yes, there is a book that describes the current version of Roassal:

• 📖 “Agile Visualization with Pharo” by Alexandre Bergel.

This book focuses on the Roassal visualization engine and provides the essential tools for visualizing data in Pharo.

➡️ Amazon link

For more up-to-date documentation, you can also check out the official GitHub repository:

• 🛠️ Roassal on GitHub:

This repository contains the source code, examples, and documentation for Roassal.

➡️ GitHub link

These resources should give a solid understanding of the current version of Roassal in Pharo.

But perhaps there is a book it did not find…

— Kasper

As is commonly the case, ChatGPT is highly plausible but completely wrong. The current version is Roassal3. "Agile Visualisation" is about Roassal2. From the examples I've seen, none of the code in the book works in the new version. The classes have different prefixes. I was hoping that there was a new edition of the book to go with the new version of the code. On Thu, 13 Feb 2025 at 20:02, Kasper Osterbye <kasper.osterbye@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 13 Feb 2025, at 01.59, Richard O'Keefe <raoknz@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal? > > > I have been overusing chatgpt, which gave this answer (which I checked and seems rather reasonable): > > Question: > > “Is there a book describing the current version of Roassal? It’s related to Pharo programming.” > > Answer: > > Yes, there is a book that describes the current version of Roassal: > > • 📖 “Agile Visualization with Pharo” by Alexandre Bergel. > > This book focuses on the Roassal visualization engine and provides the essential tools for visualizing data in Pharo. > > ➡️ Amazon link > > > For more up-to-date documentation, you can also check out the official GitHub repository: > > • 🛠️ Roassal on GitHub: > > This repository contains the source code, examples, and documentation for Roassal. > > ➡️ GitHub link > > These resources should give a solid understanding of the current version of Roassal in Pharo. > > But perhaps there is a book it did not find… > > — Kasper > >