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Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

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Evan Donahue
Sun, Jul 26, 2015 8:27 PM

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing
one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working
on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running
into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical.

Evan

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. Evan
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Andy Jones
Sun, Jul 26, 2015 8:30 PM

LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here.

On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue emdonahu@gmail.com wrote:

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been
writing
one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone
working
on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're
running
into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical.

Evan

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here. On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue <emdonahu@gmail.com> wrote: >Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been >writing >one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone >working >on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're >running >into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. > >Evan -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Sun, Jul 26, 2015 9:55 PM

Count me in, but I don't understant pretty well the offline part of the
talk...do you mean face to face?

Cheers,

Offray

On 26/07/15 15:27, Evan Donahue wrote:

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been
writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does
anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I
expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and
technical.

Evan

Count me in, but I don't understant pretty well the offline part of the talk...do you mean face to face? Cheers, Offray On 26/07/15 15:27, Evan Donahue wrote: > Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been > writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does > anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I > expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and > technical. > > Evan > >
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Bystroushaak
Sun, Jul 26, 2015 11:43 PM

Yeah. It is one of the reasons I started to learn pharo. It simply looks
like best tool to build my own exocortex.

Dne 26.7.2015 v 22:30 Andy Jones napsal(a):

LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again -
specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I
certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here.

Yeah. It is one of the reasons I started to learn pharo. It simply looks like best tool to build my own exocortex. Dne 26.7.2015 v 22:30 Andy Jones napsal(a): > LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - > specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I > certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here.
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Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Mon, Jul 27, 2015 2:01 AM

Ohh offline of the mailing list. I got it! Wouldn't be better if we talk
here about the ideas of outliners an PIM made with Pharo? Maybe this can
help with ideas and discussion at least until it gets traction.

Cheers,

Offray

On 26/07/15 16:55, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:

Count me in, but I don't understant pretty well the offline part of
the talk...do you mean face to face?

Cheers,

Offray

On 26/07/15 15:27, Evan Donahue wrote:

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been
writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does
anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I
expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual
and technical.

Evan

Ohh offline of the mailing list. I got it! Wouldn't be better if we talk here about the ideas of outliners an PIM made with Pharo? Maybe this can help with ideas and discussion at least until it gets traction. Cheers, Offray On 26/07/15 16:55, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Count me in, but I don't understant pretty well the offline part of > the talk...do you mean face to face? > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 26/07/15 15:27, Evan Donahue wrote: >> Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been >> writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does >> anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I >> expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual >> and technical. >> >> Evan >> >> > > >
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Norbert Hartl
Mon, Jul 27, 2015 6:22 AM

Am 27.07.2015 um 04:01 schrieb Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net:

Ohh offline of the mailing list. I got it! Wouldn't be better if we talk here about the ideas of outliners an PIM made with Pharo? Maybe this can help with ideas and discussion at least until it gets traction.

+1

Norbert

Cheers,

Offray

On 26/07/15 16:55, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
Count me in, but I don't understant pretty well the offline part of the talk...do you mean face to face?

Cheers,

Offray

On 26/07/15 15:27, Evan Donahue wrote:
Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical.

Evan

> Am 27.07.2015 um 04:01 schrieb Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray@riseup.net>: > > Ohh offline of the mailing list. I got it! Wouldn't be better if we talk here about the ideas of outliners an PIM made with Pharo? Maybe this can help with ideas and discussion at least until it gets traction. > +1 Norbert > Cheers, > > Offray > >> On 26/07/15 16:55, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: >> Count me in, but I don't understant pretty well the offline part of the talk...do you mean face to face? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Offray >> >>> On 26/07/15 15:27, Evan Donahue wrote: >>> Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. >>> >>> Evan > >
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stepharo
Mon, Jul 27, 2015 7:35 AM

Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit :

LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again -
specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I
certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here.

If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier
and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and
editing support.

On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue emdonahu@gmail.com wrote:

 Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been
 writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes.
 Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk
 offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both
 conceptual and technical.

 Evan

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit : > LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - > specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I > certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here. If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and editing support. > > On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue <emdonahu@gmail.com> wrote: > > Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been > writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. > Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk > offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both > conceptual and technical. > > Evan > > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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Peter Uhnák
Mon, Jul 27, 2015 8:09 AM

I think that we would need some better support for text rendering for
Pillar to be usable inside Pharo --- that's reason why I gave up on this
long ago and am still using html (and js) for myself... and also because of
clickable links.

Kasper Østerbye did this some time ago

​(original thread
http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-Nautilus-through-Pillar-td4819726.html
)

However I have no idea what is the current state of it (Pillar repository
shows only a single commit from April).

Ideally I want full html+css renderer, but that is hard.

Peter

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM, stepharo stepharo@free.fr wrote:

Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit :

LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again -
specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I certainly
don't have any code yet; complete newb here.

If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier and
you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and
editing support.

On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue emdonahu@gmail.com
emdonahu@gmail.com wrote:

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing
one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working
on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running
into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical.

Evan

--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

I think that we would need some better support for text rendering for Pillar to be usable inside Pharo --- that's reason why I gave up on this long ago and am still using html (and js) for myself... and also because of clickable links. Kasper Østerbye did this some time ago ​(original thread http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-Nautilus-through-Pillar-td4819726.html ) However I have no idea what is the current state of it (Pillar repository shows only a single commit from April). Ideally I want full html+css renderer, but that is hard. Peter On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit : > > LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - > specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I certainly > don't have any code yet; complete newb here. > > > If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier and > you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and > editing support. > > > On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue <emdonahu@gmail.com> > <emdonahu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing >> one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working >> on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running >> into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. >> >> Evan >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > >
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Damien Cassou
Mon, Jul 27, 2015 8:35 AM

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas offray@riseup.net writes:

Ohh offline of the mailing list. I got it! Wouldn't be better if we talk
here about the ideas of outliners an PIM made with Pharo? Maybe this can
help with ideas and discussion at least until it gets traction.

please continue on the mailing list

--
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray@riseup.net> writes: > Ohh offline of the mailing list. I got it! Wouldn't be better if we talk > here about the ideas of outliners an PIM made with Pharo? Maybe this can > help with ideas and discussion at least until it gets traction. please continue on the mailing list -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill
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stepharo
Mon, Jul 27, 2015 10:21 AM

Once we will get TxText we will really invest into nice rendering. Now
nothing prevents someone to push to have comments better rendered
based on kasper

Stef

Le 27/7/15 10:09, Peter Uhnák a écrit :

I think that we would need some better support for text rendering for
Pillar to be usable inside Pharo --- that's reason why I gave up on
this long ago and am still using html (and js) for myself... and also
because of clickable links.

Kasper Østerbye did this some time ago

​(original thread
http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-Nautilus-through-Pillar-td4819726.html
)

However I have no idea what is the current state of it (Pillar
repository shows only a single commit from April).

Ideally I want full html+css renderer, but that is hard.

Peter

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr
mailto:stepharo@free.fr> wrote:

 Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit :
 LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again -
 specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I
 certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here.
 If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of
 Pier and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter
 and
 editing support.
 On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue <emdonahu@gmail.com>
 <mailto:emdonahu@gmail.com> wrote:

     Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've
     been writing one as well and using it to organize my research
     notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want
     to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same
     issues, both conceptual and technical.

     Evan



 -- 
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. 
Once we will get TxText we will really invest into nice rendering. Now nothing prevents someone to push to have comments better rendered based on kasper Stef Le 27/7/15 10:09, Peter Uhnák a écrit : > I think that we would need some better support for text rendering for > Pillar to be usable inside Pharo --- that's reason why I gave up on > this long ago and am still using html (and js) for myself... and also > because of clickable links. > > Kasper Østerbye did this some time ago > > ​(original thread > http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-Nautilus-through-Pillar-td4819726.html > ) > > However I have no idea what is the current state of it (Pillar > repository shows only a single commit from April). > > Ideally I want full html+css renderer, but that is hard. > > Peter > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > > > Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit : >> LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again - >> specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I >> certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here. > > If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of > Pier and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter > and > editing support. >> >> On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue <emdonahu@gmail.com> >> <mailto:emdonahu@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've >> been writing one as well and using it to organize my research >> notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want >> to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same >> issues, both conceptual and technical. >> >> Evan >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > >