Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager
Indeed, TxText should provide live rendering.
In the meantime, we have Rubric and there is a reasonable support for live
rendering and linking:
http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/writing-pillar-books-with-the-gtinspector/
However, the current problem is the parser. In my solution, I used an
island parser based on PetitParser. That's because the main parser is not
flexible enough and, for example, does not preserve the locations of AST
nodes. So, I would suggest to build on top of the GTInspector extension for
now and focus on the Pillar parser. Once the parser will be usable for live
rendering, we can switch to the TxText.
Who would be interested in participating?
Cheers,
Doru
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 12:21 PM, stepharo stepharo@free.fr wrote:
Once we will get TxText we will really invest into nice rendering. Now
nothing prevents someone to push to have comments better rendered
based on kasper
Stef
Le 27/7/15 10:09, Peter Uhnák a écrit :
I think that we would need some better support for text rendering for
Pillar to be usable inside Pharo --- that's reason why I gave up on this
long ago and am still using html (and js) for myself... and also because of
clickable links.
Kasper Østerbye did this some time ago
(original thread
http://forum.world.st/Class-comments-rendered-in-Nautilus-through-Pillar-td4819726.html
)
However I have no idea what is the current state of it (Pillar
repository shows only a single commit from April).
Ideally I want full html+css renderer, but that is hard.
Peter
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 9:35 AM, stepharo stepharo@free.fr wrote:
Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit :
LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again -
specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I certainly
don't have any code yet; complete newb here.
If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier
and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and
editing support.
On 26 July 2015 21:27:15 BST, Evan Donahue emdonahu@gmail.com
emdonahu@gmail.com wrote:
Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing
one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working
on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running
into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical.
Evan
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Hi,
On 27/07/15 02:35, stepharo wrote:
Le 26/7/15 22:30, Andy Jones a écrit :
LOL - this is actually what brought me back to Smalltalk again -
specifically the idea of some sort of programmable Wiki - but I
certainly don't have any code yet; complete newb here.
If you want a wiki syntax use pillar because it is the syntax of Pier
and you will get for free all the instratucture and outputter and
editing support.
I'm using pandoc's markdown and trying to make pandoc to talk better
with Pharo. Pandoc has support for a lot of languages (see graph at
[1]), including html and LaTeX, but also a more plural community [2]
including plublishers [3] (the post is about using IPython notebook but
the supporting format is markdown). In my opinion this is a good example
of a place where we need to talk better with external libraries,
frameworks and communities.
[1] http://pandoc.org/
[2] http://scholarlymarkdown.com/
[3] https://beta.oreilly.com/ideas/jupyter-at-oreilly
Cheers,
Offray
Hi everyone,
(thread at http://forum.world.st/Personal-wiki-information-manager-td4839150i20.html, if it does not come across via email.. )
how did things go with the orgMode and GTD / PIM projects? It seems like the orgMode parser never was ported to Pharo 6 and later: https://github.com/JurajKubelka/OrgMode
Also, was Trentor ever completed and published, Evan?
I'm interested in building and using a Pharo based GTD system and would like to use OrgMode files as the database so I can still use the OrgMode ecosystem with its how-tos and mobile apps etc. And then gradually transition to Pharo.
Is anyone else interested?
cheers,
Siemen
(I tried to post this via forum.world.st first, but the message didn’t make it to the mailing list. It seems like Nabble does not do this anymore.. ?)
Hi Siemen,
I'd be interested in joining you on this journey. I'm a complete novice
to Pharo, but will be willing to help where I can.
Craig
On 2023/06/26 12:41, siemenbaader@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
(thread at
http://forum.world.st/Personal-wiki-information-manager-td4839150i20.html,
if it does not come across via email.. )
how did things go with the orgMode and GTD / PIM projects? It seems
like the orgMode parser never was ported to Pharo 6 and later:
https://github.com/JurajKubelka/OrgMode
Also, was Trentor ever completed and published, Evan?
I'm interested in building and using a Pharo based GTD system and
would like to use OrgMode files as the database so I can still use the
OrgMode ecosystem with its how-tos and mobile apps etc. And then
gradually transition to Pharo.
Is anyone else interested?
cheers,
Siemen
(I tried to post this via forum.world.st first, but the message didn’t
make it to the mailing list. It seems like Nabble does not do this
anymore.. ?)
Hi Craig,
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 12:48 PM Craig Johnson craig@hivemind.net wrote:
I'd be interested in joining you on this journey. I'm a complete novice
to Pharo, but will be willing to help where I can.
that's great to hear! Lets see what people on this list chips in with to
build on top of, and then perhaps we should have an online meeting and hash
it out how to proceed. I'm in the CEST time zone. And you?
cheers
Siemen
Hi Siemen,
I'm in CAT time, which is the same as CEST at the moment. Let's wait a
bit to see if others jump-in.
Craig
On 2023/06/26 14:29, Siemen Baader wrote:
Hi Craig,
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 12:48 PM Craig Johnson craig@hivemind.net wrote:
I'd be interested in joining you on this journey. I'm a complete
novice
to Pharo, but will be willing to help where I can.
that's great to hear! Lets see what people on this list chips in with
to build on top of, and then perhaps we should have an online meeting
and hash it out how to proceed. I'm in the CEST time zone. And you?
cheers
Siemen
On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 2:36 PM Craig Johnson craig@hivemind.net wrote:
I'm in CAT time, which is the same as CEST at the moment. Let's wait a
bit to see if others jump-in.
Great! I'm curious to hear what has happened to these older projects
discussed in the thread.
Hi Siemen,
While this is not related directly with OrgMode, it is with Personal
Knowledge Management (PKM) and data storytelling as a way to learn and
introduce novices to Pharo and an alternative path for such learning
beyond the usual one taken by developers / computer scientist.
With Grafoscopio[1], since late 2015 and early 2016, I have been
traversing a similar path into learning/using Pharo via outliners and
although OrgMode was in the radar, my main inspirations were Leo Editor,
Jypyter and TeXmacs (you can see more about the inspirations and
Grafoscopio place in the PKM / data storytelling ecosystems in [2]).
Now, with the release of Lepiter[3] in 2021, we are slowly porting the
lessons learned with Grafoscopio to Lepiter, with packages like
MiniDocs[4] and TiddlyWikiPharo[5].
So, while our tech stack doesn't include OrgMode, it used Pharo to
combine and connect HedgeDoc[6a] Markdeep[6], Lepiter and TiddlyWiki[7],
allowing us a wider range of audiences and devices, including mobile
tablets/phones. And, maybe that is in resonance with the multidevice PKM
approach that you're trying to inmerse yourself into Pharo.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Offray
=== Links
[1] https://mutabit.com/grafoscopio/en.html
[2]
https://mutabit.com/repos.fossil/grafoscopio/doc/tip/readme.md.html#overview/placeintheecosystem/similartools
[3]
https://lepiter.io/feenk/introducing-lepiter--knowledge-management--e2p6apqsz5npq7m4xte0kkywn/
[4] https://code.sustrato.red/Offray/MiniDocs/
[5] https://code.sustrato.red/Offray/TiddlyWikiPharo/
[6] https://casual-effects.com/markdeep/
[6a] https://hedgedoc.org/
[7] https://tiddlywiki.com/
On 26/06/23 5:41, siemenbaader@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
(thread at
http://forum.world.st/Personal-wiki-information-manager-td4839150i20.html,
if it does not come across via email.. )
how did things go with the orgMode and GTD / PIM projects? It seems
like the orgMode parser never was ported to Pharo 6 and later:
https://github.com/JurajKubelka/OrgMode
Also, was Trentor ever completed and published, Evan?
I'm interested in building and using a Pharo based GTD system and
would like to use OrgMode files as the database so I can still use the
OrgMode ecosystem with its how-tos and mobile apps etc. And then
gradually transition to Pharo.
Is anyone else interested?
cheers,
Siemen
(I tried to post this via forum.world.st first, but the message didn’t
make it to the mailing list. It seems like Nabble does not do this
anymore.. ?)
Hi Offray,
that is very interesting material, and well described. No, it doesn't have
to be OrgMode per se, I just wanted to make use of something that already
can support a GTD workflow and implement something on top of it gradually.
I look deeper into this - thanks a lot!
cheers,
Siemen
Can anyone point to to some library, documentation or examples of how to play video in Pharo?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
J