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Wed, Dec 9, 2020 5:20 PM

I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding works for me.

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin <yvan.godin@gmail.com> wrote:

in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably
totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important

I wanted to test Gtk-binding. https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings
because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I
can wait.

Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with
big crash dump

    GtkApplication ensureRunning.
    GtkRunLoop defer: [
        GtkWindow new 
        title: 'Gtk3 Window';
        add: (GtkBox newVertical
            packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!');
            yourself);
        showAll ]

for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but
without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time
ago I have try Squeak and sound was working.

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I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding works for me. On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin <yvan.godin@gmail.com> wrote: in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important I wanted to test Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I can wait. Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with big crash dump ``` GtkApplication ensureRunning. GtkRunLoop defer: [ GtkWindow new title: 'Gtk3 Window'; add: (GtkBox newVertical packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!'); yourself); showAll ] ``` for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time ago I have try Squeak and sound was working. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

SD

Stéphane Ducasse

Thu, Dec 10, 2020 7:13 AM

Thanks for the information.

S

On 9 Dec 2020, at 18:20, G B via Pharo-users pharo-users@lists.pharo.org wrote:

I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding works for me.

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin yvan.godin@gmail.com wrote:

in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably
totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important

I wanted to test Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings>
because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I
can wait.

Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with
big crash dump

    GtkApplication ensureRunning.
    GtkRunLoop defer: [
        GtkWindow new 
        title: 'Gtk3 Window';
        add: (GtkBox newVertical
            packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!');
            yourself);
        showAll ]

for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but
without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time
ago I have try Squeak and sound was working.

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Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France

Thanks for the information. S > On 9 Dec 2020, at 18:20, G B via Pharo-users <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> wrote: > > I am using OpenSUSE Leap and the above code for "Hello" using GTK-binding works for me. > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 8:30:29 AM CST, yvan Godin <yvan.godin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > in reality posted my answer on a wrong list probably > totally new to Pharo and Smaltalk I wanted just try so this is not important > > I wanted to test Gtk-binding. <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings>> > because I am interested by Gtk but not for specific project so no problem I > can wait. > > Load fine but the demo code provided on github hard crash the image with > big crash dump > ``` > GtkApplication ensureRunning. > GtkRunLoop defer: [ > GtkWindow new > title: 'Gtk3 Window'; > add: (GtkBox newVertical > packStart: (GtkLabel newLabel: 'Hello!'); > yourself); > showAll ] > ``` > > for the sound I have try to add sdl2 and alsa lib and some libsound but > without success. One more time this is not essential but sad. Very long time > ago I have try Squeak and sound was working. > > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

YG

yvan.godin@gmail.com

Thu, Dec 10, 2020 7:25 AM

first of all thanks for all answers

I will re instal a full fresh Pharo9 a test again but 2 questions

prefered VM to use ? Stable Lastest Threaded ?

How to send big file crash ?

cheers

NB I am retired coder with some middle level with gtk on other language but difficult to me to change my old brain model to connect with Pharo one with so many classes and method even if I have tried some mooc ;-)

first of all thanks for all answers I will re instal a full fresh Pharo9 a test again but 2 questions prefered VM to use ? Stable Lastest Threaded ? How to send big file crash ? cheers NB I am retired coder with some middle level with gtk on other language but difficult to me to change my old brain model to connect with Pharo one with so many classes and method even if I have tried some mooc ;-)

K

kmo

Thu, Dec 10, 2020 10:47 AM

The Mars project page says use this image and vm:

curl https://get.pharo.org/64/90+vmHeadlessLatest | bash

To upload the crash.dmp file to the issue log you need to rename it to
crash.txt first.

Good luck.

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The Mars project page says use this image and vm: curl https://get.pharo.org/64/90+vmHeadlessLatest | bash To upload the crash.dmp file to the issue log you need to rename it to crash.txt first. Good luck. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

YG

yvan Godin

Thu, Dec 10, 2020 1:34 PM

hello

I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind
https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings / (I don't care of Mars but
interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/

the run of demo hard crash as previously

I have tried to upload the file here but no sure to well understand how
this list work
crash.txt http://forum.world.st/file/t372931/crash.txt

thanks everybody

/by the side a curious behavior to this mailing list requiring again to me
to subscribe again /

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hello I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> / (I don't care of Mars but interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/ the run of demo hard crash as previously I have tried to upload the file here but no sure to well understand how this list work crash.txt <http://forum.world.st/file/t372931/crash.txt> thanks everybody /by the side a curious behavior to this mailing list requiring again to me to subscribe again / -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

SD

Stéphane Ducasse

Thu, Dec 10, 2020 4:57 PM

On 10 Dec 2020, at 14:34, yvan Godin yvan.godin@gmail.com wrote:

hello

I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind
https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings / (I don't care of Mars but
interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/

the run of demo hard crash as previously

I have tried to upload the file here but no sure to well understand how
this list work
crash.txt http://forum.world.st/file/t372931/crash.txt

Thanks for the report.

thanks everybody

/by the side a curious behavior to this mailing list requiring again to me
to subscribe again /

Yes this is strange.
Esteban was also removed and we do not know why.

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Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France

> On 10 Dec 2020, at 14:34, yvan Godin <yvan.godin@gmail.com> wrote: > > hello > > I have re installed an strictly follow everything as described in gtk-bind > <https://github.com/pharo-spec/gtk-bindings> / (I don't care of Mars but > interested by Spec2 and/or Gtk)/ > > the run of demo hard crash as previously > > I have tried to upload the file here but no sure to well understand how > this list work > crash.txt <http://forum.world.st/file/t372931/crash.txt> Thanks for the report. > > thanks everybody > > /by the side a curious behavior to this mailing list requiring again to me > to subscribe again / Yes this is strange. Esteban was also removed and we do not know why. > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

YG

yvan Godin

Fri, Dec 11, 2020 8:01 AM

Hello
May be you shouldn't spend time on that because I have successfully tested
Gtk-bind on a more recent laptop /(Intel© Core™ i7 16GoRam versus Pentium
4Go )/ with same Ubuntu 19
sorry for inconvenience and thanks everybody

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Hello May be you shouldn't spend time on that because I have successfully tested Gtk-bind on a more recent laptop /(Intel© Core™ i7 16GoRam versus Pentium 4Go )/ with same Ubuntu 19 sorry for inconvenience and thanks everybody -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

SD

Stéphane Ducasse

Fri, Dec 11, 2020 9:14 AM

On 11 Dec 2020, at 09:01, yvan Godin yvan.godin@gmail.com wrote:

Hello
May be you shouldn't spend time on that because I have successfully tested
Gtk-bind on a more recent laptop /(Intel© Core™ i7 16GoRam versus Pentium
4Go )/ with same Ubuntu 19
sorry for inconvenience and thanks everybody

Yvan there is no problem.
We prefer that you report a non bug that you do not report a bug.

And I do like to hear that we neglect linux because this is not the case.
Now there is one version of Mac at the time (plus three old versions)
but we do not have this situation for the thing called “linux”

S.

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Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France

> On 11 Dec 2020, at 09:01, yvan Godin <yvan.godin@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello > May be you shouldn't spend time on that because I have successfully tested > Gtk-bind on a more recent laptop /(Intel© Core™ i7 16GoRam versus Pentium > 4Go )/ with same Ubuntu 19 > sorry for inconvenience and thanks everybody Yvan there is no problem. We prefer that you report a non bug that you do not report a bug. And I do like to hear that we neglect linux because this is not the case. Now there is one version of Mac at the time (plus three old versions) but we do not have this situation for the thing called “linux” S. > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

K

kmo

Fri, Dec 11, 2020 3:05 PM

But if it doesn't work on older machines (if that is the case) then that's
still a bug, isn't it?

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But if it doesn't work on older machines (if that is the case) then that's still a bug, isn't it? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

SD

Stéphane Ducasse

Fri, Dec 11, 2020 9:20 PM

It depends how old.
We cannot do magic.
In particular, if more people would help fixing simple things in Pharo we would then have the time for more boring and challenging issues.
Because in my personal case, I’m not paid to develop and lead Pharo dev.
My own carrer and CV do not depend on Pharo and in fact I could publish much more
and look much smarter without it.

S.

But if it doesn't work on older machines (if that is the case) then that's
still a bug, isn't it?

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Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France

It depends how old. We cannot do magic. In particular, if more people would help fixing simple things in Pharo we would then have the time for more boring and challenging issues. Because in my personal case, I’m not paid to develop and lead Pharo dev. My own carrer and CV do not depend on Pharo and in fact I could publish much more and look much smarter without it. S. > But if it doesn't work on older machines (if that is the case) then that's > still a bug, isn't it? > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

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