[Pharo-users] The results are in!

horrido horrido.hobbies at gmail.com
Tue Feb 11 10:46:57 EST 2020


I shall endeavour to make my posts more meaningful, starting with [ANN]. My
bad.



Guillermo Polito wrote
> Hi Ben,
> 
>> El 9 feb 2020, a las 21:01, Ben Coman <

> btc@

> > escribió:
>> 
>> > This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse
>> any kind of propaganda (pharo related or not).
>> 
>> This list is not just for asking questions.  There are plenty of [ANN]
>> posts advertising new libraries 
>> and blogs articles.  Following completion of the competition, the MIT
>> licensed code repository will be announced here. 
>> Hopefully it may provide an engaging exercise for Pharo teachers to their
>> with their students.
> 
> I know, and I don’t mind announcements from time to time.
> But announcements are generally marked with [ANN], and are kind of self
> explanatory.
> The mail Richard sent is, and I’m sorry to be harsh, spam.
> 
>> > I have the feeling this list has been lately flooded with such
>> off-topic messages.
>> 
>> Unfortunately the original post was quite bare and failed to show how it
>> was Pharo-topical.
>> So I can understand how it triggered you.  I hope the additional
>> background info provided here alleviates some of your concern about it.
> 
> Maybe. Maybe Richard could work his emails a bit more?
> 
> I’ll quote his original email:
> 
>> > El 8 feb 2020, a las 19:12, Richard Kenneth Eng <

> horrido.hobbies@

>  <mailto:

> horrido.hobbies@

> >> escribió:
>> >
>> > Round 1 — #1 Leading Team: https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ
>> <https://youtu.be/QWHeN5WXfBQ>
>> >
>> > I'm actually quite amazed by their effort. They surpassed my
>> expectations.
>> >
>> > At the risk of sounding immodest, I think this is a terrific way to
>> promote Smalltalk (Pharo). I think the video is an absolute blast.
>> >
>> > Richard
> 
> I particularly, who hasn’t followed the competition, am completely lost
> with this email.
> With the risk of sounding harsh, again, but trying to give some feedback
> Richard can work on:
> - The subject does not imply it is an announcement, nor what the results
> are related to or how they got there
> - For those that are not following this competition: what is this round 1?
> Are there many of them? What is this about? are there many teams?
> - There is no single link to the competition website, what this is about,
> whoever contributed to it...
> - Clicking on the link gives a video with a title that is as ambiguous as
> this email :(
> - I check the description of the video: what is there in the video? not
> clear. How will it appear in a youtube search in the future?
>    At least it seems there are links to the website...
>    Yet, Really? do I have to watch the video before I can know if this is
> interesting for me or not? :P
> 
> Happily these points could be addressed in the future.
> 
>> So with this additional perspective, may one post a week be allowed to
>> share the progress of the competition?
> 
> Can the posts have better quality? :/
> 
> Still, I’d feel more confortable with an alternative, such as using
> discord.
> What about having a dedicated #jmrpc channel on discord where people could
> ask questions too?
> 
> What about twitter? I havent seen this on twitter. Is it there?
> 
> Now, I already spent too much on this :)
> Time to get back to something productive.
> 
> Cheers,
> Guille





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