[Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

horrido horrido.hobbies at gmail.com
Wed Feb 5 23:58:25 EST 2020


I've never posted to /r/smalltalk. There's no point in preaching to the
choir.

I posted to /r/programming and everybody there tried to lynch me.



Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list wrote
> FWIW I am one of the mods of /r/smalltalk - happy to have material
> 
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> 
>> On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:12, horrido <

> horrido.hobbies@

> > wrote:
>> 
>> Reddit is a strange bird. I have found more resistance to Smalltalk there
>> than from any other source on the planet. Moreover, those people *really*
>> don't appreciate me evangelizing anything. Consequently, I've avoided
>> Reddit
>> like the plague.
>> 
>> I don't know what kind of readership exists at Reddit, but they are
>> openly
>> hostile. So you'll forgive me if I don't lend much credence to what
>> Redditors say.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote
>>> st 5. 2. 2020 v 20:48 odesílatel horrido <
>> 
>>> horrido.hobbies@
>> 
>>> > napsal:
>>> 
>>>> I learned a long time ago that you can't please everybody. I've heard
>>>> the
>>>> critics about my evangelism. I've also heard the praise.
>>>> 
>>>> So what am I supposed to do? Listen to the critics and ignore the fans?
>>>> 
>>>> If you're an evangelist, you have to develop a thick skin and follow
>>>> your
>>>> heart. Otherwise, get out of the kitchen...
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> You are a victim of your own strong confirmation bias. I hardly can
>>> break
>>> it but I just want to point out that in the mentioned discussion, there
>>> was
>>> no fan of you (and there were more people complaining than the two I
>>> mentioned).
>>> 
>>> Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote
>>>>> st 5. 2. 2020 v 19:02 odesílatel horrido <
>>>> 
>>>>> horrido.hobbies@
>>>> 
>>>>> > napsal:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You want to take the Smalltalk heritage as a definition, that’s ok.
>>>> We
>>>>>> don’t, and that’s ok too. Is about what we want to do.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Who's "we"?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Last time I checked, nobody owns Pharo. Pharo is not a bunch of core
>>>>>> developers; it's a community. And I believe there are many Pharoers
>>>> who
>>>>>> share my view.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Since I'm a Smalltalk evangelist and not a Pharo evangelist, I guess
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> shouldn't ever mention Pharo in my blog. After all, if it's not
>>>>>> Smalltalk,
>>>>>> why should I promote it???
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pharo 8.0 release Reddit discussion included some feedback you
>>>>> may appreciate:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Thanks. Does this Pharo release removes feature "Richard Kenneth
>>>>> Eng"?
>>>>> That was the only feature in detriment to such an excellent
>>>>> environment
>>>> as
>>>>> Pharo."
>>>>> 
>>>>> "I really like the idea of pharo's features and smalltalk is quite
>>>>> interesting, but I can't help but be put off by the insanely stupid
>>>>> marketing culture around it. Most articles about it exaggerate way too
>>>>> much
>>>>> and seem like they're written by people who were paid to write about
>>>> it.
>>>>> Or
>>>>> maybe I'm reading Medium-cancer too much."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In fact, this is disastrous for my JRMPC competition since it's based
>>>>>> entirely on Pharo. I'm promoting Smalltalk but pushing Pharo on all
>>>> the
>>>>>> participating teams??? What the f*ck am I doing?!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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