[Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

Todd Blanchard tblanchard at mac.com
Wed Feb 5 23:17:49 EST 2020


FWIW I am one of the mods of /r/smalltalk - happy to have material

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> On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:12, horrido <horrido.hobbies at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Reddit is a strange bird. I have found more resistance to Smalltalk there
> than from any other source on the planet. Moreover, those people *really*
> don't appreciate me evangelizing anything. Consequently, I've avoided Reddit
> like the plague.
> 
> I don't know what kind of readership exists at Reddit, but they are openly
> hostile. So you'll forgive me if I don't lend much credence to what
> Redditors say.
> 
> 
> 
> Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote
>> st 5. 2. 2020 v 20:48 odesílatel horrido <
> 
>> horrido.hobbies@
> 
>> > napsal:
>> 
>>> I learned a long time ago that you can't please everybody. I've heard the
>>> critics about my evangelism. I've also heard the praise.
>>> 
>>> So what am I supposed to do? Listen to the critics and ignore the fans?
>>> 
>>> If you're an evangelist, you have to develop a thick skin and follow your
>>> heart. Otherwise, get out of the kitchen...
>>> 
>> 
>> You are a victim of your own strong confirmation bias. I hardly can break
>> it but I just want to point out that in the mentioned discussion, there
>> was
>> no fan of you (and there were more people complaining than the two I
>> mentioned).
>> 
>> Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote
>>>> st 5. 2. 2020 v 19:02 odesílatel horrido <
>>> 
>>>> horrido.hobbies@
>>> 
>>>> > napsal:
>>>> 
>>>>>> You want to take the Smalltalk heritage as a definition, that’s ok.
>>> We
>>>>> don’t, and that’s ok too. Is about what we want to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Who's "we"?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Last time I checked, nobody owns Pharo. Pharo is not a bunch of core
>>>>> developers; it's a community. And I believe there are many Pharoers
>>> who
>>>>> share my view.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since I'm a Smalltalk evangelist and not a Pharo evangelist, I guess I
>>>>> shouldn't ever mention Pharo in my blog. After all, if it's not
>>>>> Smalltalk,
>>>>> why should I promote it???
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pharo 8.0 release Reddit discussion included some feedback you
>>>> may appreciate:
>>>> 
>>>> "Thanks. Does this Pharo release removes feature "Richard Kenneth Eng"?
>>>> That was the only feature in detriment to such an excellent environment
>>> as
>>>> Pharo."
>>>> 
>>>> "I really like the idea of pharo's features and smalltalk is quite
>>>> interesting, but I can't help but be put off by the insanely stupid
>>>> marketing culture around it. Most articles about it exaggerate way too
>>>> much
>>>> and seem like they're written by people who were paid to write about
>>> it.
>>>> Or
>>>> maybe I'm reading Medium-cancer too much."
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> In fact, this is disastrous for my JRMPC competition since it's based
>>>>> entirely on Pharo. I'm promoting Smalltalk but pushing Pharo on all
>>> the
>>>>> participating teams??? What the f*ck am I doing?!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
>>> 
>>> 
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