[Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

Richard O'Keefe raoknz at gmail.com
Mon Sep 23 23:24:03 EDT 2019


Let's look at some official numbers.

Looking at https://www.hesa.ac.uk/news/11-01-2018/sfr247-higher-education-student-statistics/qualifications
we see that overall, female graduates outnumbered male graduates about
4 to 3 in each of the three years
recorded.  The imbalance in science graduates was less, but it was
still consistently women significantly
outnumbering men.  Computer science stood out as consistently about 4
men to 1 woman, and Computer
Science departments are tying themselves into knots trying to figure
out what to do about it.  Meanwhile,
nobody worries that "subjects allied to medicine" was about 4 women to 1 man.

If there are models explaining that "colleges" are set up to favour
white males, why are women succeeding
so much more than men?

In my own country, ten years ago the main newspaper ran an article
pointing out that "Two-thirds of bachelor
degrees last year went to women, the highest figure on record" and
that "Women have outnumbered men
in the tertiary sector for more than a decade", blaming "a secondary
school system which may discourage
or poorly prepare boys for further learning".

Look now at Canada.
https://www.conferenceboard.ca/hcp/Details/education/gender-gap-tertiary.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
tells us that "Canadian women aged 25 to 64 are 17 per cent more
likely than Canadian men to have a tertiary education.
The imbalance in educational attainment between Canadian men and women
has increased over the past decade,
raising questions about whether higher education in Canada is becoming
less hospitable to male learners."  This is not new.
"the overall gender imbalance tipped in women’s favour in Canada in
the early 1990s.  ...
Many are asking whether there is a 'boy crisis' in education and
wondering what can be done to address it. In fact, a
growing 'boy gap' in education can be seen across OECD countries, with
the problem beginning long before students
 reach post-secondary age. According to a recent report, 'boys, as a
group, rank behind girls by nearly every measure
of scholastic achievement'—including reading and writing scores—and
they are 'also more likely to be picked out for
behavioural problems, more likely to repeat a grade and to drop out of
school altogether.”  "when we examine th
more recent cohort of graduates—those aged 25 to 34—nearly every
country has a gender imbalance that favours
women. In most cases, moreover, women’s advantage has become much more
pronounced."

So models that explain why colleges favour white males are rather like
models that explain why the sun is dark.
If "colleges" are set up to favour white males, they are doing a
catastrophically bad job of it.  So much so that I
have been glad I have daughters, not sons.

If you want to say that Computer Science numbers are due to some sort
of discriminatory environment rather than
preference, then you have to explain the equally large imbalance the
other way in "medicine-related subjects" as
discrimination rather than preference.


On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 02:39, Stephan Eggermont <stephan at stack.nl> wrote:
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> Steve Quezadas <steveeq1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Your interpreting this information with a SJW lens.
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> SJW is a political construct from the extreme right. As a straight white
> male from Western Europe I have seen enough discriminatory practices
> applied to less privileged friends to know there is a problem. And as I can
> afford to speak up, I do.
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> > Look at the low proportion of blacks and women who
> > apply for CS majors in college. Are you going to say that colleges are
> > using discriminatory practices to keep blacks and women from taking CS
> > classes?
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> Yes, the colleges are set up to make it easier for white males to succeed.
> There are enough models explaining why that happens
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> > Maybe the bulk of the low recruitment statistics is simply due to
> > non-interest within that sub-culture.
>
> Back to identity politics?
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> Stephan
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