[Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

Richard O'Keefe raoknz at gmail.com
Tue Sep 17 19:32:15 EDT 2019

You just wrote what I didn't quite dare to say.
Thank you.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 11:29, Ramon Leon <ramon.leon at allresnet.com> wrote:

> On 2019-09-17 2:34 p.m., Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
> > as I say the important issue is to provide safe
> > spaces via explicit or implicit rules
> I understand, I just disagree. These are of course my personal opinions,
> others may disagree.  "Safe spaces" are bad things, not good things; the
> world is not a safe space, it is not the responsibility of others to
> provide one a feeling of safety in a an online community where people
> merely exchange words. Words are not dangerous, you are already safe. If
> you don't like what someone is saying, ignore them or mute them. Safe space
> a euphemism for censorship and exclusion, people who want safe spaces want
> to exclude other people who might express ideas or opinions that they
> disagree with. Safe spaces are anti-free speech zones.
> They are an attempt to prepare the world for the child rather than the
> child for the world; they are inherently narcissistic. Intellectual
> discourse is supposed to be challenging to your beliefs, you're supposed to
> confront ideas you might not like or agree with and people you might have a
> hard time getting along with. If you submit code to a technical forum you
> should expect criticism and debate.  Technical discussions should resolve
> around the ideas being presented, not around the identities of those
> involved, and ideas should always be open to critique and debate. I don't
> care what one's sex or gender are or what color one's skin is or political
> beliefs are; those things have no place in a technical forum. I watch these
> groups to see discussions about technology like Pharo, Squeak, or Seaside.
> It's a rare thing to see anyone here being truly rude, there's no need for
> a code of conduct, it's a non solution to a non problem intended only to
> divide and punish for political ends.  Maybe I'm just getting old, but the
> younger generation is far too coddled and expectant of the world to adjust
> to their feelings rather than learning how to deal with the world and
> others who have different ideas than they do. Safe spaces are bad ideas.
> --
> Ramón León
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