[Pharo-users] Code of Conduct
raoknz at gmail.com
Tue Sep 17 19:26:25 EDT 2019
Correspondents should be warned that the phrase "safe spaces" needs a
I am not joking here. People who are genuinely sensitive to the
concerns of others really should avoid that concept because there are many
whom it arouses strong negative feelings. Who indeed feel belittled and
it. "Point of personal privilege..."
I want this mailing list to serve the ends of advancing the development of
supporting the people who use Pharo in learning how to use it effectively,
and more generally serving humanity by advancing the art of programming.
The announcement of Grafoscopio and the help given when people have
it? Perfect example, hugely respect-worthy. There are plenty of others.
Is there, in fact, enough of a problem here for us to NEED a special code,
above say the ACM or BCS or whatever codes of ethics? At the department I
be in, from time to time someone would raise an issue at a staff meeting,
all start thinking about how to craft a rule to cover us. But the wisest
would usually say "Do we actually need a rule for this? Is this happening
or is it something rare that we can deal with informally?" Whenever he
he was right. It *was* something rare that could be dealt with human to
I was talking to a graduate student one day. He had a lot of commercial
I had been reading up about BPML and commented to him "it's as if
to program people like machines". He responded, "yes they do." He was
give me more examples than I really wanted from his own experience. I see
so-called "Covenant" that we are discussing as another example of this urge
micro-control other people. It has me nervously looking for the exit.
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 at 09:35, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <
offray.luna at mutabit.com> wrote:
> I'm not talking about the Covenant code in particular. Is not the only
> code out there and as I say the important issue is to provide safe
> spaces via explicit or implicit rules. Each community decides which is
> the best way to be welcomed and respectful and how this is clear to its
> members and outsiders.
> I don't think that technology and politics are so far away as usually
> depicted, particularly in the Global North, as both deal with power
> dynamics but technology embeds it in infrastructure. But seems that
> politics is kind of a tainted word there and just bring it opens a
> Pandora box.
> On 17/09/19 11:38 a. m., Ramon Leon wrote:
> > On 2019-09-17 6:28 a.m., Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
> >> I'm pretty secure that Code of Conducts intent to provide secure
> >> spaces beyond just digital spaces and go also into physical and face
> >> to face ones.
> > The code of conducts intent is to force identity politics into
> > technical spaces in the name of social justice and to make someone
> > feeling offended an actionable reason to go after the supposed
> > offender; never mind that offense is taken rather than given.
> > Nevermind that anyone can claim to be offended by just about anything.
> > The goal is to get the project to agree to kick people out for
> > violating the utterly vague and subjective rules.
> > Here's some more quotes from the author of said code of conduct.
> > "Some people are saying that the Contributor Covenant is a political
> > document, and they’re right."
> > "I can’t wait for the mass exodus from Linux now that it’s been
> > infiltrated by SJWs. Hahahah"
> > "Meritocracy is just thinly veiled misogyny and white supremacy
> > propping up fragile cis het white men's egos"
> > "Meritocracy is late stage patriarchy"
> > "Why didn’t anyone punch the reporter giving the nazi air time?"
> > He is a radical left transgender activist, his intentions are purely
> > political, the CoC is merely a means to an end and is used by him to
> > setup situations in which he can cancel people in this new cancel
> > culture. He wants to replace meritocracy with identity politics. This
> > is the CoC that ran Linus out of Linux, a massive loss to the OS
> > community. This is not a horse you want to hitch your wagon to Pharo.
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