[Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

Richard O'Keefe raoknz at gmail.com
Mon Sep 16 18:09:10 EDT 2019


There was a point raised in the Ruby discussion (where my thoughts about
Matz changed from "inventor of a language that filled a much-needed gap" to
"really thoughtful so maybe I was wrong about Ruby") which I think is
sufficient reason for a major revision to the Coraline Code.  (For the
record, I'm centre-left.)

There is a process for punishing, but no process for restoration.

Any morally acceptable code should be explicit that in the absence of a
legal conviction, no person may be banned or locked out for more than some
reasonable period, such as 2 years.  If someone re-offends after such a
period, impose another temporary ban or lockout.

Given the way the concept of "harassment" has been misused, it no longer
has any place in a code of conduct.  Harassment these days is whatever the
percipient judges it to be.  There was a Pogo cartoon in which Pogo said
"good morning" to a couple of other characters.  Afterwards, one of them
said to the other "Pogo is so mealy-mouthed that 'good morning' from him
could be someone else's 'drop dead'."  Then that was satire.  Today it's
reality.  One of my daughter's friends was reported as harassing another
woman.  What did she do?  Sat quietly in the car, looking straight ahead,
neither saying anything nor moving.  I know this because I was in the
driver's seat at the time.  The same woman accused my wife of harassing
her.  How?  By sitting quietly in another room facing away from her.  My
wife's offence was that if this woman looked at her through an internal
window, she could see her.  I was sitting in the same room as the
complainer at the time.  If just sitting quietly minding your own business
can be construed as harassment, NOBODY is safe.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Ramon Leon <ramon.leon at allresnet.com> wrote:

> On 2019-09-11 1:07 p.m., Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
> > Based on the reaction earlier in the thread, I was expecting something
> > highly opinionated and polarizing, but it seems to boil down to: be
> > professional and don't make it personal. While there are some categories
> of
> > people mentioned, it doesn't seem to make a value judgement about them,
> but
> > merely say that no one (including from those categories) will be harassed
> > inside the Pharo community. Seems pretty reasonable, unless I'm missing
> > something...
>
> You're missing what some progressives consider harassment these days.
> These codes of conduct are being used around the net to force progressive
> political ideology into technical communities, the vague language is used
> to claim offense at any number of things like misgendering, or refusing to
> use any number of made up pronouns. Using inclusive language means using
> progressive language like ze/zir, per/pers, ey/em, xe/xem if someone
> demands it.  This is language policing and a forcing of political ideology
> into what should not be political.  People are being kicked out of
> communities for violating codes of conduct of the community outside of the
> community, i.e. you said something on twitter or facebook and now you're
> banned from an open source project for it even though it had nothing to do
> with the project.
>
> The person who created this particular code of conduct is a well known
> trans activist who first gets communities to accept the code of conduct,
> and then stalks people around web to find anything anywhere that might
> violate the vague code of conduct and then tries to cancel them in every
> community they're a part of. If you're not wary of this code of conduct,
> you're not paying attention to how it's being used out there.
>
> Here's a few quotes from the author of this code of conduct.
>
> "The Ruby community has no moral compass. Just aphorisms and
> self-congtatulatory, masturbatory bullshit."  << after trying and failing
> to kick the creator of Ruby out of the Ruby community.
>
> "If you're not fighting alongside us, or lending support, you're STANDING
> IN OUR WAY. And I vow that I will walk right the fuck over you.".
>
> "Fact: the solution to the problems in tech is not more tech. Especially
> not more tech written by privileged, heads-in-the-sand white dudes."
>
> "So many cis het white tech dudes with large platforms on here, that not
> only don't engage in dialog on issues of social justice but don't even
> elevate the voices of those of us who do, ignoring POLITICS is a PRIVILEGE
> and I FUCKING SEE YOU."
>
> Here's a little history of this code of conduct and some other popular
> communities.
>
> https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/974038-why-the-linux-coc-is-bad/
>
> It's sad to see that Pharo has jumped onto this PC bandwagon, it does not
> bode well for the community.
>
> --
> Ramón León
>
>
>
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