[Pharo-users] Code of Conduct

Richard Sargent richard.sargent at gemtalksystems.com
Wed Sep 11 17:37:42 EDT 2019

Thanks for sharing that, Peter. It's an important point.

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:02 PM Peter Kenny <peter at pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote:

> I see no problem with having *a* code of conduct, but there are some
> worrying aspects of *this* code. Clearly there is a need for generality in
> any code, but the vagueness of the drafting seems to me to open it up to
> all sorts of mischief. Consider the paragraph: " *Project maintainers
> have the right and responsibility* to remove, edit, or reject comments,
> commits, code, wiki edits, issues, and other contributions that are not
> aligned to this Code of Conduct, or* to ban temporarily or permanently
> any contributor for other behaviors that they deem inappropriate*,
> threatening, offensive, or harmful." The bits I have bolded mean that the
> maintainers can apply punitive measures based on what they deem
> inappropriate. Shouldn't the concept of "due process" come into this? The
> FAQ section, under the heading "What should I do if I have been accused of
> violating the code of conduct?", makes no mention of defending ones
> actions; the only option is to admit guilt and work with the accusers to
> reform. The inclusion of the words "they deem" opens the way to all sort of
> subjectivity. Just for one instance, Sven recently thought it inappropriate
> that John Pfersich mentioned in passing in this list that, besides
> programming, his hobbies include shooting, which is a legal activity in
> most countries and an Olympic sport. Others disagreed in the thread, but
> Sven's message remained "don't do it." If John mentioned it again, could
> that be a violation of the code? The fact that this particular code,
> evidently the creation of one person, is accepted by others should not mean
> it is automatically accepted. There is an obligation to look at it in
> detail; when I do, I think there are problems. Peter Kenny
> Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote
> > On 11 Sep 2019, at 19:07, James Foster <[hidden email]
> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=email&email=Smalltalk%40>> wrote: > > >>
> On Sep 11, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <[hidden email]
> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=email&email=offray.luna%40>> wrote: >>
> >> On 11/09/19 9:14 a. m., Herby Vojčík wrote: >>> I found Contributor
> Covenant-derived Code of Conduct was added to >>> Pharo, three months ago.
> This is unacceptable under any circumstances. >>> >>> Have fun in your woke
> hell. >> >> I would like to have more details about this. For those of us
> who don't >> believe in hell, what is the problem of an explicit Code of
> Conduct? > > More specifically, what behavior does the Code prohibit that
> you would otherwise do? > > For my part, while I might not subscribe to the
> full progressive agenda, I wasn’t planning any racial or ethnic slurs (or a
> theological discussion of the afterlife—but feel free to ask me
> privately!), so don’t find this “woke” agenda too constricting. > > James
> Indeed. For those new to the discussion, we are talking about
> https://www.contributor-covenant.org/version/1/4/code-of-conduct - which
> is quite popular and generally accepted. Sven
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