[Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymchuk at me.com
Wed Oct 30 17:20:23 EDT 2013


On 30 Oct 2013, at 21:44, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse at inria.fr> wrote:

> 
> On Oct 30, 2013, at 5:53 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> This makes sense. But I have 2 opinions:
>> 
>> 1) If we want something like markdown, why not to use Markdown?
> 
> because we will have to patch it anyway because it is uncomplete (missing features for making decent book).
> 
>> 2) When I think about the book I think about something nice. I don’t think that markdown is good for books. That’s exactly what I encountered. I wanted to start with this updated version of RBE and wanted to use Gutenberg so it will be possible to put the book on iBook store and Amazon and read it on iDevices and Kindles. But When I started to rewrite latex source in Gutenberg I’ve found that a lot of details are going to be missing, because the is no support in Gutenberg for them.
> 
> Like what?
> Be precise because we can extend gutenberg to cover these needs.
> Because we took the previous pharo book macros and reduce the set.
> 
> 
>> That’s my main question: why won’t we write books in ePub (because it the #1 eBooks format) and confer it to .mobi (for kindles) as the formats can be converted without a problem.
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> Because with gutenberg+ we can generate
> 	- latex 
> 	- markdown 
> 	- html
> 	so you can add epub 

Just why do you need a book in markdown?

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> I do not want to eith write doc or book or html I want one format to produce them all. 
> 
>> I’d also enjoy to write books in iBooks Author, but it will be hard to cooperate as not everybody is using Mac.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> Uko
>> 
>> On 30 Oct 2013, at 17:36, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk at me.com> wrote:
>>>> Why do we need Pier-Gutenberg? Why can’t we gust use ePub for example?
>>> 
>>> We need a simple text based syntax (like for wiki) to write
>>> documentation fast (e.g., books, class comments, method comments). I
>>> don't know ePub, but it looks a lot like HTML, which is way too
>>> verbose for our needs. Gutemberg looks more like Mardown and Org-mode.
>>> The difference with these 2 is that everything is written in Smalltalk
>>> so it is easy to customize to our needs and embed in Pharo (e.g., to
>>> show beautiful class comments in Nautilus, just like in Amber:
>>> http://forum.world.st/attachment/4684866/0/Screen%20Shot%202013-05-02%20at%2012.11.59%20AM.png)
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Damien Cassou
>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st
>>> 
>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
>>> losing enthusiasm."
>>> Winston Churchill
>>> 
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