[Pharo-dev] default monospaced code font

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Thu Oct 17 04:57:04 EDT 2013


ok i looked at .xlxslsx file
at least, in google preview it looks more or less close to the truth :)

and i can say that Source Sans Pro is a winner ( to my taste ).
I like that for 'i' in it don't closes together as in 'it', comparing to
dejavu , where it does.
It reads very clear yet compact.

On 17 October 2013 10:43, Igor Stasenko <siguctua at gmail.com> wrote:

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>
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> On 17 October 2013 10:47, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier at cea.fr> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Le 17/10/2013 10:29, Igor Stasenko a écrit :
>>
>>> hmm.. i have suspicion that it is actually adobe who can't handle the
>>> font properly..
>>> because in some examples for source code pro font, the adjacent letters
>>> jump onto each other.
>>> i don't believe it is that bad (see attached)Inline images 1
>>>
>>
>> Adobe or the viewer? I used evince to view it, not acrobat reader. It may
>> point to incorrect spacing information in Source Sans Pro (I have not the
>> errors you see in Source Code Pro).
>>
>> Who is in charge of the Source Pro font? Which typographer? Oh, Adobe
>> apparently. If they can't handle it properly...
>>
>>
> i am far from blaming adobe, just wanted to say that in my viewer it does
> not shows things
> properly, because when rendered in pharo it don't have such problems.
>
> so i cannot have decent comparison..
>
>
>> Thierry
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 17 October 2013 09:28, Goubier Thierry <thierry.goubier at cea.fr
>>> <mailto:thierry.goubier at cea.fr**>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Excellent, I like the comparison a lot! Thanks!
>>>
>>>     My take is:
>>>     - Unable to like Source Code Pro 9 (and it's so wide);
>>>     - Source Sans Pro 9 has spacing issues (16r, the r is too close) and
>>>     reading issues (it's the worse for the lL|i characters)
>>>     - Source sans Pro 10 is better than 9 (but what with the 2x space?)
>>>
>>>     Overall, I'd stay with DejaVu Sans 9 based on this sample. In my
>>>     opinion, the best compromise density / readability.
>>>
>>>     Thierry
>>>
>>>     Le 16/10/2013 19:56, btc at openinworld.com
>>>     <mailto:btc at openinworld.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>>         Goubier Thierry wrote:
>>>
>>>             I'd be more impressed if the argument was helping me
>>> distinguish
>>>             between | and l.
>>>
>>>
>>>         Yes. It is designed to do that. Some common failings of
>>>         monospaced fonts
>>>         are noted [1] and dealt with. There comment section is also
>>>         interesting.
>>>
>>>         The attached PDFs are the result of getting the urge to compare
>>>         a broad
>>>         coverage of code examples (taken from "Terse Guide to Squeak")
>>>         against
>>>         three fonts:
>>>         * DejaVu Sans 9 point
>>>         * Source Code Pro [1] [2] 9 point
>>>         * Source Sans Pro [3] [4] 9 point & 10 point, since the width of
>>>         10 was
>>>         the same as the others at 9.
>>>         Also attached is the source excel file.
>>>
>>>         cheers -ben
>>>
>>>         [1]
>>>         http://blogs.adobe.com/__**typblography/2012/09/source-__**
>>> code-pro.html<http://blogs.adobe.com/__typblography/2012/09/source-__code-pro.html>
>>>         <http://blogs.adobe.com/**typblography/2012/09/source-**
>>> code-pro.html<http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/09/source-code-pro.html>
>>> >
>>>         [2]
>>>         http://sourceforge.net/__**projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/_**
>>> _files/ <http://sourceforge.net/__projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/__files/>
>>>         <http://sourceforge.net/**projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/**files/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/files/>
>>> >
>>>         [3]
>>>         http://blogs.adobe.com/__**typblography/2012/08/source-__**
>>> sans-pro.html<http://blogs.adobe.com/__typblography/2012/08/source-__sans-pro.html>
>>>         <http://blogs.adobe.com/**typblography/2012/08/source-**
>>> sans-pro.html<http://blogs.adobe.com/typblography/2012/08/source-sans-pro.html>
>>> >
>>>         [4]
>>>         http://sourceforge.net/__**projects/sourcesans.adobe/__**
>>> postdownload?source=dlp<http://sourceforge.net/__projects/sourcesans.adobe/__postdownload?source=dlp>
>>>
>>>         <http://sourceforge.net/**projects/sourcesans.adobe/**
>>> postdownload?source=dlp<http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcesans.adobe/postdownload?source=dlp>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>             I'l let you try, then :)
>>>
>>>             Thierry
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Igor Stasenko.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Thierry Goubier
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>>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko.
>



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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.
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