[Pharo-project] Smalltalk for small projects only?

Michael Haupt mhaupt at gmail.com
Sun Jan 29 07:44:48 EST 2012


this is very interesting; I've always wanted to read that kind of study. Do you have a pointer?



Am 29.01.2012 um 08:51 schrieb dimitris chloupis <thekilon at yahoo.co.uk>:

> Maybe not for smalltalk but for python there is a number of surveys that prove that by replacing java with python you can scale down developing time by 2-3x times. By "prove" I mean projects that have actually done that.  Not quite a 10x but I think its impressive non the less and I think the numbers wont be very dissimilar for smalltalk
> From: Michael Haupt <mhaupt at gmail.com>
> To: "Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr" <Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr> 
> Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2012, 23:29
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk for small projects only?
> Janko,
> Am 28.01.2012 um 21:08 schrieb Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
> >> I think this is a post that clearly illustrates the big problem with
> >> smalltalk. The very fact that is compared with Java and Java survives.
> > 
> > Yes, that 4-5 peole can do what 50 Java people are needed is both a
> > blessing and a curse :)
> I wanted to ask this earlier: is there actual evidence for this, or is it just boasting?
> > Blessing because of productivity, curse because
> > we are not able to scale beyond one highly connected development group.
> > We don't have project management practices and tools, while Java guys
> > have because they need them from the start.
> I'm not so sure the people at those Smalltalk firms building software for banks et al. have no project management. Boasting? ;-)
> Best,
> Michael
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