[Pharo-project] usability of Pharo and Squeak

laurent laffont laurent.laffont at gmail.com
Sat Jun 4 12:32:17 EDT 2011


On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Andreas Wacknitz <a.wacknitz at gmx.de> wrote:

>
> Am 31.05.2011 um 09:38 schrieb laurent laffont:
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wacknitz at gmx.de>wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have convinced a friend to take a closer look at Pharo 1.2.1 and Dolphin
>> Smalltalk. He is an experienced Java developer.
>> After some time he started to complain about Pharo. I was discussing with
>> him and now think that he has some valid points.
>>
>> His biggest complaint is: "Why does Pharo always show windows at sizes and
>> positions I don't want?"
>> I answered him: You could set the standard window size in the class
>> RealEstateAgent and furthermore you can create or change >>initialExtent
>> methods in every class that is involved.
>> But his answer was: Why should I do that? It's the responsibility of an
>> IDE. I don't want to program elementary things of my IDE. Why is there no
>> mechanism that let a user set the sizes and positions of windows? Netbeans
>> and Eclipse are doing that nicely. Why isn't it possible in Pharo?
>> After that discussion I now question my own way of using Pharo and Squeak.
>> I have created some changesets that I used to file in when using
>> a fresh image. But that seems stupid now...
>>
>> His second complaint was that he doesn't like the cluttered windows. While
>> programming he had a lot of open windows and told me that he lost overview.
>>
>
>
> This is why I've started TilingWindowManager. Could you friend give some
> feedback ?
>
> Laurent.
>
>
> Laurent,
>
> I looked at TWM and it looked promising but I think it's only a complement
> to what I have in mind:
> A user should be able to save window sizes and positions as defaults.
> The TWM makes my life easier but still can't guess what I really want.
>
>

Don't hesitate to contribute code :)

Laurent.


> Regards
> Andreas
>
>
>
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