[Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes

Adrian Lienhard adi at netstyle.ch
Fri Jan 30 07:38:24 EST 2009

Hi Gary,

On Jan 30, 2009, at 13:10 , GARY CHAMBERS wrote:

> Buttons - after loading you should reselect your theme to initialize  
> the forms used for square button corners.

ok, works.

> menu selection - not sure what you mean. Is it a menu or a popup  
> choice (in which case spacebar should be used to choose option since  
> enter is likely to activate the default button in the dialog)

ah, I didn't know. Indeed, spacebar works.

> Dialogs - dialogs are tied to their originating window so will  
> surface  if the window is selected. I guess you want not to show  
> dialogs in taskbar (maybe a preference, definitely not one-decision- 
> fits-all)

yes, I think dialogs do not need to appear in the taskbar to avoid  
clutter, but that's not critical.

> Hard to read text - much better if you use a FreeType font!

ok (we will add default freetype fonts to Pharo)

> OB buttons - David and I will get there eventually!
> Tooltips - in what way? Making beziers from polygon morph would be  
> nice and smooth, just tricky  to implement

I thought that tooltips like the ones you usually see (rectangle with  
light yellow background color) would be nicer than the balloon.

> Prefs theme - I deliberately didn't touch which buttons though I'll  
> probably remove it next

Feel free to do so if you like to get rid of them.


> Thanks for feedback.
> Regards, Gary
> ________________________________
> From: Adrian Lienhard <adi at netstyle.ch>
> To: Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr
> Sent: Thursday, 29 January, 2009 9:37:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Call for UI gripes
> Hi Gary,
> Thanks for the great work so far!
> Here some feedback...
> I merged Polymorph-Widgets-gvc.36 into a current Pharo image (using  
> the default theme, Watery2). Then loaded OB.
> - Pre-Debugger window buttons look odd in the latest version (see  
> screenshot)
> - Menu selection does not honor enter, only mouse click. Try doit "1  
> aa" then select an item from the menu by keyboard and hit enter.  
> Nothing happens (not sure, though, if this is related to Polymorph)
> - do not show popup windows in task bar, only main windows
> - Buttons: the text on the blue buttons is a bit hard to read.  
> Furthermore, In the OB Browser there are two types of blue buttons.  
> It would be nice to have a consistent style for buttons.
> -  the style of tooltips (see screenshot) might be improved
> (- in the preference browser, which by the way looks great compared  
> to the old one, the button "theme..." os obsolete.)
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> On Jan 29, 2009, at 17:56 , Gary Chambers wrote:
>> Anything that anyone thinks could be improved?
>> Happy to consider things... just would be nice to have a central  
>> point for
>> moving forward with Polymorph (in particular) or other tools...
>> There is a possibility of open-source release of the PackageListTool
>> (http://www.flickr.com/photos/12018791@N06/2616669616/in/set-72157601659393251/ 
>> )
>> if there is any interest.
>> Regards, Gary.
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