WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0
Hi, I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do it? Does exist any guide? If I right understand this document <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied: http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html Cheers, Hernán El 23/12/2013 20:13, vmusulainen escribió:
Hi,
I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do it? Does exist any guide? If I right understand this document <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
what is a âcommunity packageâ?
Cheers,
Hernán
El 23/12/2013 20:13, vmusulainen escribió:
Hi,
I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do it? Does exist any guide? If I right understand this document <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
what is a âcommunity packageâ?
The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible. Hernán
Yeah, that part I can understand it. What I donât understand is what would be that. Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome. For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration. All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages. For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion). Esteban On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
what is a âcommunity packageâ?
The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
Hernán
btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should). On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that part I can understand it. What I donât understand is what would be that.
Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub
we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.
For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.
All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.
For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).
Esteban
On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
what is a âcommunity packageâ?
The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
Hernán
Then you better read how populations or languages become extinct. Hernán 2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>
btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should).
On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that part I can understand it. What I donât understand is what would be that.
Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub
we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.
For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.
All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.
For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).
Esteban
On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand < hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <
hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have
previously asked and nobody replied:
http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
what is a âcommunity packageâ?
The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
Hernán
On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
Then you better read how populations or languages become extinct.
if you can be less generic and more specific, please. Iâm trying to understand, not to make any points. Esteban
Hernán
2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should).
On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that part I can understand it. What I donât understand is what would be that.
Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub
we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome.
For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration.
All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages.
For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion).
Esteban
On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió:
On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote:
I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied:
http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html
what is a âcommunity packageâ?
The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible.
Hernán
Ok, let's continue in the other thread to avoid (more :) confusion. Hernán 2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> > > On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:54, Hernán Morales Durand <hernan.morales@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Then you better read how populations or languages become extinct. > > > if you can be less generic and more specific, please. > Iâm trying to understand, not to make any points. > > Esteban > > > Hernán > > > 2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> > >> btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple >> packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in >> mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should). >> >> On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Yeah, that part I can understand it. >> > What I donât understand is what would be that. >> > >> > Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub >> > Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub >> > >> > we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that >> resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome. >> > >> > For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue >> reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. >> > For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates >> + the *updated* configuration. >> > >> > All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? >> > And you should take care that job is green after you commit your >> packages. >> > >> > For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to >> be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in >> pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion). >> > >> > Esteban >> > >> > On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, Hernán Morales Durand < >> hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribió: >> >>> >> >>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, Hernán Morales Durand < >> hernan.morales@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have >> previously asked and nobody replied: >> >>>> >> >>>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html >> >>> >> >>> what is a âcommunity packageâ? >> >>> >> >> >> >> The point of a community package is to involve as much of the >> community as possible. >> >> >> >> Hernán >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >
Hello, On 24 Dec 2013, at 00:13, vmusulainen <vmusulainen@mail.ru> wrote:
Hi,
I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do it? Does exist any guide? If I right understand this document <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
WebClient, like hundreds of others, is indeed a third-party, external package to Pharo. How are these maintained ? By their authors, and in some cases by volunteers. You can certainly discuss about these on the mailing lists and look for help, but you cannot expect the core Pharo community to take responsibility or to have any kind of obligation to act. Now, the original author of WebClient, Andreas Raab, sadly passed away last year. I see that the repository is readonly: http://www.squeaksource.com/WebClient.html If you cannot find anyone to give you write access, your only option would be to fork the code. Regards, Sven PS: I assume you do know that Pharo has out of the box, fully supported, HTTP client and server functionality standard in the image since 1.3, in the form of Zinc HTTP Components (ZnClient, ZnServer, ZnEasy) ? -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org
On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:54, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Hello,
On 24 Dec 2013, at 00:13, vmusulainen <vmusulainen@mail.ru> wrote:
Hi,
I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the package and fixed it. I would make my fixes public for community. How do it? Does exist any guide? If I right understand this document <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
WebClient, like hundreds of others, is indeed a third-party, external package to Pharo. How are these maintained ? By their authors, and in some cases by volunteers. You can certainly discuss about these on the mailing lists and look for help, but you cannot expect the core Pharo community to take responsibility or to have any kind of obligation to act.
Now, the original author of WebClient, Andreas Raab, sadly passed away last year. I see that the repository is readonly:
http://www.squeaksource.com/WebClient.html
If you cannot find anyone to give you write access, your only option would be to fork the code.
Regards,
Sven
PS: I assume you do know that Pharo has out of the box, fully supported, HTTP client and server functionality standard in the image since 1.3, in the form of Zinc HTTP Components (ZnClient, ZnServer, ZnEasy) ?
yep. why would you want to install webclient when you already has an out-of-the-box and actively maintained solution?
-- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org
Hi why do you want to use WebClient? Is there something that Zinc does not provide? Zinc is fully maintained by Sven and is better code.
Hi,
I have loaded WebClient from ConfigurationTool on Pharo 2.0. It seems something changed at system so I had some issues while loading the package and fixed it.
Do you know who is the maintainer of WebClient because this is not a package we maintain it
I would make my fixes public for community. How do it?
It depends on the owner of the project.
Does exist any guide? If I right understand this document <http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute> describe contrubuting for Pharo and not applicable for 3dparty packages.
-- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
why do you want to use WebClient? Is there something that Zinc does not provide? Zinc is fully maintained by Sven and is better code.
Yes, you are right - better use Zinc. I didn't found it early. Google search by "pharo http client" returned first link to WebCLient. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Issues-on-Pharo-2-0-tp4732142p4732232.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
participants (5)
-
Esteban Lorenzano -
Hernán Morales Durand -
Stéphane Ducasse -
Sven Van Caekenberghe -
vmusulainen