sorry to abuse pharo list, but I guess it is related enough. Smalltalk made it to SO developer Survey. Unfortunately it did not appear in most used languages list, but it got great place as "Second most loved language"! So for those of you who participated in the survey, it payed off. davorin
Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results? Cheers, Offray On 24/03/17 05:10, Davorin Rusevljan wrote:
sorry to abuse pharo list, but I guess it is related enough.
Smalltalk made it to SO developer Survey. Unfortunately it did not appear in most used languages list, but it got great place as "Second most loved language"!
So for those of you who participated in the survey, it payed off.
davorin
On 24/03/2017 13:33, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results?
https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017
Cheers,
Offray
-- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
This is really strange. Because according to the survey every 2 our of 3 participants identified Smalltalk as a language they love. However Iâd say that only 1 of every 20 developers that I meet knows what Smalltalk is. Uko
On 24 Mar 2017, at 13:38, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
On 24/03/2017 13:33, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results?
https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017
Cheers,
Offray
-- Cyril Ferlicot
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
From 2016... "loved" means people using the language want to keep using it. https://techbeacon.com/highlights-stack-overflow-2016-developer-survey
So probably more like, 2 out of 3 people using Smalltalk this year would like to / expect to be using it next year, which seems more realistic. Notice also that Rust and Smalltalk are absent from the "Dreaded" list. Being on that list may downgrade the "love" of mainstream languages. It would seem people don't use mainstream languages because they love them. And the corollary is, that you only use a non-mainstream language if you love it. Keep your eye out for the raw data dump http://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey If we can validate where our high "loved" rating comes from, all the above make good marketing points. Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing... * downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc, * browsing returned data with GTInspector, * in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data, * graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to analyse the data, up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it. cheers -ben . On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:29 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk@me.com> wrote:
This is really strange. Because according to the survey every 2 our of 3 participants identified Smalltalk as a language they love. However Iâd say that only 1 of every 20 developers that I meet knows what Smalltalk is.
Uko
On 24 Mar 2017, at 13:38, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
On 24/03/2017 13:33, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results?
https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017
Cheers,
Offray
-- Cyril Ferlicot
2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
On 25/03/17 16:26, Ben Coman wrote:
Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing... * downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc, * browsing returned data with GTInspector, * in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data, * graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to analyse the data, up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it.
The analysis for this data is highly parallelizable, so - start a dozen images - download a 12th of the data each - in the main image aggregate search results and visualize Stephan
Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-) Envoyé de mon iPhone
Le 25 mars 2017 à 18:21, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> a écrit :
On 25/03/17 16:26, Ben Coman wrote:
Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing... * downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc, * browsing returned data with GTInspector, * in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data, * graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to analyse the data, up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it.
The analysis for this data is highly parallelizable, so - start a dozen images - download a 12th of the data each - in the main image aggregate search results and visualize
Stephan
guille and santiago have a worker pool that is planned to serialize test running locally before commit based on taskIt. On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)
How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)
Stephan
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-) How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)
I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's) meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk. Heh. Pierce
On 26/03/17 04:16, Pierce Ng wrote:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-) How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)
I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's) meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk. Heh.
Yeah. On SO, state you are doing big data with pharo and ask a very specific question. On the best way to detect hanging images or so. Stephan
Big data, like the âcloudâ, is mainly a marketing thing to sell big iron in big datacenters. So if youâre going back to big iron anyway, might as well use VisualGen for COBOL. What? VisualGen is written in IBM Smalltalk? Just donât tell anyone, theyâll never guess. Andrew On 2017-03-26, 11:43 AM, "Pharo-users on behalf of Stephan Eggermont" <pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org on behalf of stephan@stack.nl> wrote: On 26/03/17 04:16, Pierce Ng wrote: > On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >> On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckwich@gmail.com wrote: >>> Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-) >> How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :) > > I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's) > meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk. > Heh. Yeah. On SO, state you are doing big data with pharo and ask a very specific question. On the best way to detect hanging images or so. Stephan
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
On 26/03/17 04:16, Pierce Ng wrote:
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckwich@gmail.com wrote:
Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)
How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)
I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's) meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk. Heh.
bah! what could *small*talk possibly have to do with *big* data. go gossip somewhere else! cheers -ben ;)
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Andrew Glynn -
Ben Coman -
Cyril Ferlicot D. -
Davorin Rusevljan -
Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas -
Pierce Ng -
serge.stinckwich＠gmail.com -
Stephan Eggermont -
Stephane Ducasse -
Yuriy Tymchuk