Hi pharoers we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb So who would like to help pushing this effort? Stef Begin forwarded message: From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org> Hello Pharo Association I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion. Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software Kind regards Kevin -- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
Hi Stef, Pharo is not in the list right now, isn't it? Best regards Marcus stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> schrieb am So., 7. Juni 2015 13:09:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
Could be something good. I wanted to figure out what is to provide but I didn't find anything useful in all this massive amount of marketing bullshit on their site. Do you really contact them before you can see how you can provide a package? Norbert
Am 07.06.2015 um 13:08 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
Hi, I have been using Bitnami and I think that they're really good at providing "execute and deploy" stacks for a lot of applications which are cumbersome to configure and complicated. They're a real time saver. The only one similar offer I know we have is Pharo Cloud but the advantage of a Bitnami Pharo stack is that they could run on Digital Ocean with a more versatile stack and more attractive prices. In fact that's my approach when I need to deploy a stack I usually choose Bitnami Stack + digital ocean for hosting, if the stack I'm looking for is available in bitnami, which is usually cheaper that Specific stack hosting. I don't know if Pharo Cloud could be the company that Bitnami is looking for as a Software partner for deploying. Cheers, Offray On 07/06/15 09:14, Norbert Hartl wrote:
Could be something good. I wanted to figure out what is to provide but I didn't find anything useful in all this massive amount of marketing bullshit on their site. Do you really contact them before you can see how you can provide a package?
Norbert
Am 07.06.2015 um 13:08 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
Hi, Yes, my experience with bitnami's products and assistance is really good too. Besides running in the cloud, I think that having installer scrips to deploy on Windows, Osx or Ubuntu and virtual machines increases chances to successfully deploy on, for example, reluctant IT guys' corporate servers. Best Emilio -----Mensaje original----- De: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] En nombre de Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas Enviado el: Domingo, 07 de Junio de 2015 14:59 Para: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo on bitnami Hi, I have been using Bitnami and I think that they're really good at providing "execute and deploy" stacks for a lot of applications which are cumbersome to configure and complicated. They're a real time saver. The only one similar offer I know we have is Pharo Cloud but the advantage of a Bitnami Pharo stack is that they could run on Digital Ocean with a more versatile stack and more attractive prices. In fact that's my approach when I need to deploy a stack I usually choose Bitnami Stack + digital ocean for hosting, if the stack I'm looking for is available in bitnami, which is usually cheaper that Specific stack hosting. I don't know if Pharo Cloud could be the company that Bitnami is looking for as a Software partner for deploying. Cheers, Offray On 07/06/15 09:14, Norbert Hartl wrote:
Could be something good. I wanted to figure out what is to provide but I didn't find anything useful in all this massive amount of marketing bullshit on their site. Do you really contact them before you can see how you can provide a package?
Norbert
Am 07.06.2015 um 13:08 schrieb stepharo <stepharo@free.fr>:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
That would be great, but can we compete with getting >400 votes for those specific configurations, which might put us up for winning the contest in seven months time. See https://bitnami.com/stacks -- scroll down to "coming soon." and https://wiki.bitnami.com/contest_rules Presumably the applications listed need some configuration after booting to make them useful (like adding users / content), so then to broaden our audience of potential voters perhaps an alternative strategy would be to package PharoLauncher with either an RFB or web interface, with some enhancements: * choose an image to boot into straight away * better facility to download and choose between multiple VMs * widen choice of templates to include other dialects based off CogVM e.g. Squeak, Newspeak * build new images from basic Pharo + Configuration selected from Configuration Browser * built-in images that provide testdrive applications like pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb * presuming bitnami have some facility to pass a configuration script a newly booted image, act on script to perform the above actions. cheers -ben On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:08 PM, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
Great!!! Contacted them myself too, with a contest entry for either Pharo stand-alone or Seaside on Pharo, since the contest mainly focuses on 'web frameworks'. For vanilla Pharo this was their response: "Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately we can not add Pharo in our Bitnami contest. We are currently focused on web applications and Pharo is a desktop IDE tool." So I added an entry on Seaside, which he has yet to reply to, adding examples on how to run headless cloud servers with that in mind: "I made another request for "Seaside" which is a Smalltalk (language) web framework that runs either on Pharo, GNU Smaltalk or other variants running headless, connecting remotely to add code or modify the app. For example a GNU Smalltalk: http://www.gnu.org/software/smalltalk/manual/html_node/Seaside.html Seaside apps, including the entire memory footprint is stored in an "image file", this image files acts like a miniVM virtual hard drive. When you save all objects are saved as the are, and when you load it again it essentially "resumes" exacly where it left off. Images are started this way and the app becomes available on a port, you can connect to it and "develop" de image and remotely write code and execute it inside like this: http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/seaside-development-gnu-smalltalk Seaside is used mainly in the financial industry and for heavy duty erp apps. Now it has gained a footprint in the community because of the advanced Object Oriented approach to web development with Seaside." He'll probably need more advice as things progress. You can reach David at david@bitnami.com Pe 7 iun. 2015, la 14:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> a scris:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
Hi, Can we edit that? Because I do not thing thats a good description on how to install/use Seasideâ¦at least in Pharo (and no idea in GNUSmalltalk but since that blog post is from 2008 I bet it has changed a lot⦠if maintained at all). This is how you install Seaside in a linux/mac/windows(as far as it has mingw installed) server: wget -O- get.pharo.org <http://get.pharo.org/> | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main ConfigurationOfSeaside3 --install=#stable and this is how you run it: ./pharo Pharo.image eval "ZnZincServerAdaptor startOn: 8080â btw⦠I would like to add a command line handler for seaside to do this in a much better way⦠maybe soon(â¢) ;) Esteban
On 08 Jun 2015, at 16:42, Mircea S. <mircea@unom.ro> wrote:
Great!!! Contacted them myself too, with a contest entry for either Pharo stand-alone or Seaside on Pharo, since the contest mainly focuses on 'web frameworks'.
For vanilla Pharo this was their response:
"Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately we can not add Pharo in our Bitnami contest. We are currently focused on web applications and Pharo is a desktop IDE tool."
So I added an entry on Seaside, which he has yet to reply to, adding examples on how to run headless cloud servers with that in mind:
"I made another request for "Seaside" which is a Smalltalk (language) web framework that runs either on Pharo, GNU Smaltalk or other variants running headless, connecting remotely to add code or modify the app.
For example a GNU Smalltalk:
http://www.gnu.org/software/smalltalk/manual/html_node/Seaside.html <http://www.gnu.org/software/smalltalk/manual/html_node/Seaside.html>
Seaside apps, including the entire memory footprint is stored in an "image file", this image files acts like a miniVM virtual hard drive. When you save all objects are saved as the are, and when you load it again it essentially "resumes" exacly where it left off.
Images are started this way and the app becomes available on a port, you can connect to it and "develop" de image and remotely write code and execute it inside like this:
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/seaside-development-gnu-smalltalk <http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/seaside-development-gnu-smalltalk>
Seaside is used mainly in the financial industry and for heavy duty erp apps. Now it has gained a footprint in the community because of the advanced Object Oriented approach to web development with Seaside."
He'll probably need more advice as things progress. You can reach David at david@bitnami.com <mailto:david@bitnami.com>
Pe 7 iun. 2015, la 14:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> a scris:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com <mailto:kevin@bitnami.com>> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org <mailto:board@pharo.org>>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com <http://www.bitnami.com/>. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest <https://bitnami.com/contest> were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software <https://bitnami.com/partners/software>
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
Forwarded your response to David@bitnami.com Pe 9 iun. 2015, la 20:15, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> a scris:
Hi,
Can we edit that? Because I do not thing thats a good description on how to install/use Seasideâ¦at least in Pharo (and no idea in GNUSmalltalk but since that blog post is from 2008 I bet it has changed a lot⦠if maintained at all). This is how you install Seaside in a linux/mac/windows(as far as it has mingw installed) server:
wget -O- get.pharo.org | bash ./pharo Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo40/main ConfigurationOfSeaside3 --install=#stable
and this is how you run it:
./pharo Pharo.image eval "ZnZincServerAdaptor startOn: 8080â
btw⦠I would like to add a command line handler for seaside to do this in a much better way⦠maybe soon(â¢) ;)
Esteban
On 08 Jun 2015, at 16:42, Mircea S. <mircea@unom.ro> wrote:
Great!!! Contacted them myself too, with a contest entry for either Pharo stand-alone or Seaside on Pharo, since the contest mainly focuses on 'web frameworks'.
For vanilla Pharo this was their response:
"Thanks for your suggestion. Unfortunately we can not add Pharo in our Bitnami contest. We are currently focused on web applications and Pharo is a desktop IDE tool."
So I added an entry on Seaside, which he has yet to reply to, adding examples on how to run headless cloud servers with that in mind:
"I made another request for "Seaside" which is a Smalltalk (language) web framework that runs either on Pharo, GNU Smaltalk or other variants running headless, connecting remotely to add code or modify the app.
For example a GNU Smalltalk:
http://www.gnu.org/software/smalltalk/manual/html_node/Seaside.html
Seaside apps, including the entire memory footprint is stored in an "image file", this image files acts like a miniVM virtual hard drive. When you save all objects are saved as the are, and when you load it again it essentially "resumes" exacly where it left off.
Images are started this way and the app becomes available on a port, you can connect to it and "develop" de image and remotely write code and execute it inside like this:
http://smalltalk.gnu.org/blog/bonzinip/seaside-development-gnu-smalltalk
Seaside is used mainly in the financial industry and for heavy duty erp apps. Now it has gained a footprint in the community because of the advanced Object Oriented approach to web development with Seaside."
He'll probably need more advice as things progress. You can reach David at david@bitnami.com
Pe 7 iun. 2015, la 14:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> a scris:
Hi pharoers
we got in contact with bitnami and I would love to see two bitnami apps around Pharo: - basic pharo - pharo + seaside + magritte + voyage (mongo pharo layer) + mongodb
So who would like to help pushing this effort?
Stef
Begin forwarded message:
From: Kevin Franklin <kevin@bitnami.com> Subject: Introducing Bitnami... Date: 5 Jun 2015 10:57:36 GMT+2 To: <board@pharo.org>
Hello Pharo Association
I wondered if you knew about Bitnami. Please check us out at www.bitnami.com. We provide over 120 apps and development stacks â many of them open-source. If you would like Pharo to be included in our marketplace, we have a contest https://bitnami.com/contest were you can nominate it, and encourage your community to vote for its inclusion.
Also, I wondered if you could put me in touch with any commercial companies within and around the Pharo ecosystem that might like to work with us as a software partner https://bitnami.com/partners/software
Kind regards Kevin
-- Kevin Franklin Director of Business Development, Bitnami +44 78 2525 6020 @kevinjfranklin
Run your favorite apps in the cloud with Bitnami
Confidential - All Rights Reserved. Bitnami © 2015
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