Pharo on Raspberry Pi 2
Hi all, given this announcement, what would this mean for Pharo on the Raspberry Pi 2? Thierry http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/ Let's get the good stuff out of the way above the fold. Raspberry Pi 2 is now on sale *for $35* (the same price as the existing Model B+), featuring: - A 900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU (~6x performance) - 1GB LPDDR2 SDRAM (2x memory) - Complete compatibility with Raspberry Pi 1 Because *it has an ARMv7 processor*, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.
Thierry, Pharo runs in the previous RPI, the problem actually is not more horsepower but a JIT VM. I think Tim was working in that, but the VM is not quiet there yet.
From my experience, Pharo at this stage is only barely usable. But if the VM was similar in specification to that of the x86 architecture I can bet that Pharo will run perfectly well doing some tricks. cheers
*Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* *Prosavic SRL* *Tel: (011) 4542-6714* On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
given this announcement, what would this mean for Pharo on the Raspberry Pi 2?
Thierry
http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/
Letâs get the good stuff out of the way above the fold. Raspberry Pi 2 is now on sale *for $35* (the same price as the existing Model B+), featuring:
- A 900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU (~6x performance) - 1GB LPDDR2 SDRAM (2x memory) - Complete compatibility with Raspberry Pi 1
Because *it has an ARMv7 processor*, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.
Which platform ?... http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski <0800nacho@gmail.com> wrote:
Thierry, Pharo runs in the previous RPI, the problem actually is not more horsepower but a JIT VM. I think Tim was working in that, but the VM is not quiet there yet. From my experience, Pharo at this stage is only barely usable. But if the VM was similar in specification to that of the x86 architecture I can bet that Pharo will run perfectly well doing some tricks. cheers
*Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* *Prosavic SRL*
*Tel: (011) 4542-6714*
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
given this announcement, what would this mean for Pharo on the Raspberry Pi 2?
Thierry
http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/
Letâs get the good stuff out of the way above the fold. Raspberry Pi 2 is now on sale *for $35* (the same price as the existing Model B+), featuring:
- A 900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU (~6x performance) - 1GB LPDDR2 SDRAM (2x memory) - Complete compatibility with Raspberry Pi 1
Because *it has an ARMv7 processor*, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.
Ubuntu of course https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/02/02/snappy-ubuntu-core-on-raspberry-pi-2/ http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/snappy Seriously, Rasbian will still be the most used OS I guess.
On 02 Feb 2015, at 16:01, Ben Coman <btc@openInWorld.com> wrote:
Which platform ?... http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski <0800nacho@gmail.com> wrote: Thierry, Pharo runs in the previous RPI, the problem actually is not more horsepower but a JIT VM. I think Tim was working in that, but the VM is not quiet there yet. From my experience, Pharo at this stage is only barely usable. But if the VM was similar in specification to that of the x86 architecture I can bet that Pharo will run perfectly well doing some tricks. cheers
Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA Prosavic SRL
Tel: (011) 4542-6714
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all,
given this announcement, what would this mean for Pharo on the Raspberry Pi 2?
Thierry
http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/
Letâs get the good stuff out of the way above the fold. Raspberry Pi 2 is now on sale for $35 (the same price as the existing Model B+), featuring: ⢠A 900MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 CPU (~6x performance) ⢠1GB LPDDR2 SDRAM (2x memory) ⢠Complete compatibility with Raspberry Pi 1 Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.
2015-02-02 16:01 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com>:
Which platform ?... http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support
Oh, Linux for me will be perfect, thanks :)
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski <0800nacho@gmail.com> wrote:
Thierry, Pharo runs in the previous RPI, the problem actually is not more horsepower but a JIT VM. I think Tim was working in that, but the VM is not quiet there yet. From my experience, Pharo at this stage is only barely usable. But if the VM was similar in specification to that of the x86 architecture I can bet that Pharo will run perfectly well doing some tricks.
I guessed as well. I was just considering how much more powerfull (and closer to standard ARM platforms?) the version 2 of the Pi seems to be. Thierry
There is a Jenkins build for Pharo done by Jean-Baptiste Arnaud. The usability is mainly hindered by the windowing system, which is VERY slow. On the raspberry, there is the possibility to replace X11 by wayland, and I read wrappers should exist to move from one to the other. Wayland can use the Raspberry GPU, which is VERY fast. Besides, JBâs version relies on pharoS and not pharo, so remains behind the main pharo development. But nobody has done that yet. Annick Le 2 févr. 2015 à 16:11, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier@gmail.com> a écrit :
2015-02-02 16:01 GMT+01:00 Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com>: Which platform ?... http://dev.windows.com/en-us/featured/raspberrypi2support
Oh, Linux for me will be perfect, thanks :)
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Ignacio Sniechowski <0800nacho@gmail.com> wrote: Thierry, Pharo runs in the previous RPI, the problem actually is not more horsepower but a JIT VM. I think Tim was working in that, but the VM is not quiet there yet. From my experience, Pharo at this stage is only barely usable. But if the VM was similar in specification to that of the x86 architecture I can bet that Pharo will run perfectly well doing some tricks.
I guessed as well. I was just considering how much more powerfull (and closer to standard ARM platforms?) the version 2 of the Pi seems to be.
Thierry
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