i forgot to mention that it was while Loading Bloc-Core-AliakseiSyrel.636 thanks On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < vonbecmann@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry, but after evaluating

Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick'; configuration; loadDevelopment

in Pharo5.0#50270, i got an Error: Unrecognized class definition

The screenshots look really cool.

thanks

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

...

Hi,

We are happy to announce the first preview version of Brick, a new widget set created from scratch on top of Bloc.

Brick is being developed primarily by Alex Syrel (together with Alain Plantec, Andrei Chis and myself), and the work is sponsored by ESUG. Brick is part of the Glamorous Toolkit effort and will provide the basis for the new versions of the development tools.

Brick's goal is to provide a beautiful looking widget set, and the default look is based on material design. The widgets are theme-able.

Right now, there exists: - Label - Simple button - Toggle button - Checkbox - Radio button - Window with or without an active title bar that can include various visual actions and info - Menu - Beautiful scrollbars that are thin by default and enlarge when the mouse hovers over it - Scalable list for huge amounts of items with various heights (The list also allows one for embedding text widgets with in place editing)

The next immediate target is the creation of a new Pager widget (the widget that is behind the current GTInspector).

You can see some screenshots on the official site: http://gt.moosetechnology.org/brick

To play with it, you can download a ready-made image:

https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/gtoolki...

and, in a Bloc space, you can browse the examples: BrExampleBrowser exampleOpen

We would be happy to hear your feedback.

Cheers, Doru

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

-- Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

-- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Hi! I have tried the image you provide, but I cannot browse a package. Classes are not listed. I cannot run the examples therefore. Alexandre

On Aug 25, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

Hmm. Thanks for the report. Indeed, I get the same, but the CI job works well. We will have to investigate this.

In the meantime, you can use the image from: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/gtoolki...

Cheers, Doru

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann@gmail.com> wrote: i forgot to mention that it was while

Loading Bloc-Core-AliakseiSyrel.636

thanks

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann@gmail.com> wrote: Sorry, but after evaluating

Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick'; configuration; loadDevelopment

in Pharo5.0#50270, i got an Error: Unrecognized class definition

The screenshots look really cool.

thanks

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,

We are happy to announce the first preview version of Brick, a new widget set created from scratch on top of Bloc.

Brick is being developed primarily by Alex Syrel (together with Alain Plantec, Andrei Chis and myself), and the work is sponsored by ESUG. Brick is part of the Glamorous Toolkit effort and will provide the basis for the new versions of the development tools.

Brick's goal is to provide a beautiful looking widget set, and the default look is based on material design. The widgets are theme-able.

Right now, there exists: - Label - Simple button - Toggle button - Checkbox - Radio button - Window with or without an active title bar that can include various visual actions and info - Menu - Beautiful scrollbars that are thin by default and enlarge when the mouse hovers over it - Scalable list for huge amounts of items with various heights (The list also allows one for embedding text widgets with in place editing)

The next immediate target is the creation of a new Pager widget (the widget that is behind the current GTInspector).

You can see some screenshots on the official site: http://gt.moosetechnology.org/brick

To play with it, you can download a ready-made image: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/gtoolki...

and, in a Bloc space, you can browse the examples: BrExampleBrowser exampleOpen

We would be happy to hear your feedback.

Cheers, Doru

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

-- Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

-- Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Wow… Alexandre

On Aug 25, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Vincent BLONDEAU <vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net> wrote:

That is because GToolkit is based on last successful Moose 6.0 build where everything works fine (it is Pharo50248). But less than a week ago, a featured bug was integrated in Pharo and it is not possible to load Moose anymore… That is due to some encoding problems during Monticello loading between 50256 and 50257 Pharo versions (integration of Slice 16283).

As I can’t load brick on the 50256 pharo image, I think that the bug you encounter has been introduced before, i.e. between 50248 and 50256. So it is not related to the Moose one. Bernardo’s bug is related to traits loading, I have the same bug for one of my project but I didn’t investigate it yet.

Cheers, Vincent

De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de Tudor Girba Envoyé : mardi 25 août 2015 23:08 À : Any question about pharo is welcome Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] brick on top of bloc - preview

Hmm. Thanks for the report. Indeed, I get the same, but the CI job works well. We will have to investigate this.

In the meantime, you can use the image from: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/gtoolki...

Cheers, Doru

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann@gmail.com> wrote:

...

i forgot to mention that it was while

Loading Bloc-Core-AliakseiSyrel.636

thanks

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Sorry, but after evaluating

Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick'; configuration; loadDevelopment

in Pharo5.0#50270, i got an Error: Unrecognized class definition

The screenshots look really cool.

thanks

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

...

Hi,

We are happy to announce the first preview version of Brick, a new widget set created from scratch on top of Bloc.

Brick is being developed primarily by Alex Syrel (together with Alain Plantec, Andrei Chis and myself), and the work is sponsored by ESUG. Brick is part of the Glamorous Toolkit effort and will provide the basis for the new versions of the development tools.

Brick's goal is to provide a beautiful looking widget set, and the default look is based on material design. The widgets are theme-able.

Right now, there exists: - Label - Simple button - Toggle button - Checkbox - Radio button - Window with or without an active title bar that can include various visual actions and info - Menu - Beautiful scrollbars that are thin by default and enlarge when the mouse hovers over it - Scalable list for huge amounts of items with various heights (The list also allows one for embedding text widgets with in place editing)

The next immediate target is the creation of a new Pager widget (the widget that is behind the current GTInspector).

You can see some screenshots on the official site: http://gt.moosetechnology.org/brick

To play with it, you can download a ready-made image: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/gtoolki...

and, in a Bloc space, you can browse the examples: BrExampleBrowser exampleOpen

We would be happy to hear your feedback.

Cheers, Doru

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

-- Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

-- Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aha. Thanks for the help, Vincent. Now, the next problem: Does anyone know why the "Unrecognized class definition" problem occurs? :) Cheers, Doru On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Vincent BLONDEAU < vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net> wrote:

Now that the Moose 6.0 job is working, the last build of Pharo is used and the problem appears in the CI...

Vincent

-----Message d'origine----- De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de Alexandre Bergel Envoyé : mercredi 26 août 2015 01:02 À : Any question about pharo is welcome Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] brick on top of bloc - preview

Wow…

Alexandre

...

On Aug 25, 2015, at 6:41 PM, Vincent BLONDEAU < vincent.blondeau@polytech-lille.net> wrote:

That is because GToolkit is based on last successful Moose 6.0 build where everything works fine (it is Pharo50248). But less than a week ago, a featured bug was integrated in Pharo and it is not possible to load Moose anymore… That is due to some encoding problems during Monticello loading between 50256 and 50257 Pharo versions (integration of Slice 16283).

As I can’t load brick on the 50256 pharo image, I think that the bug you encounter has been introduced before, i.e. between 50248 and 50256. So it is not related to the Moose one. Bernardo’s bug is related to traits loading, I have the same bug for one of my project but I didn’t investigate it yet.

Cheers, Vincent

De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de Tudor Girba Envoyé : mardi 25 août 2015 23:08 À : Any question about pharo is welcome Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] brick on top of bloc - preview

Hmm. Thanks for the report. Indeed, I get the same, but the CI job works well. We will have to investigate this.

In the meantime, you can use the image from: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/g toolkit5.zip

Cheers, Doru

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < vonbecmann@gmail.com> wrote:

...

i forgot to mention that it was while

Loading Bloc-Core-AliakseiSyrel.636

thanks

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras < vonbecmann@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Sorry, but after evaluating

Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Pharo' project: 'Brick'; configuration; loadDevelopment

in Pharo5.0#50270, i got an Error: Unrecognized class definition

The screenshots look really cool.

thanks

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

...

Hi,

We are happy to announce the first preview version of Brick, a new widget set created from scratch on top of Bloc.

Brick is being developed primarily by Alex Syrel (together with Alain Plantec, Andrei Chis and myself), and the work is sponsored by ESUG. Brick is part of the Glamorous Toolkit effort and will provide the basis for the new versions of the development tools.

Brick's goal is to provide a beautiful looking widget set, and the default look is based on material design. The widgets are theme-able.

Right now, there exists: - Label - Simple button - Toggle button - Checkbox - Radio button - Window with or without an active title bar that can include various visual actions and info - Menu - Beautiful scrollbars that are thin by default and enlarge when the mouse hovers over it - Scalable list for huge amounts of items with various heights (The list also allows one for embedding text widgets with in place editing)

The next immediate target is the creation of a new Pager widget (the widget that is behind the current GTInspector).

You can see some screenshots on the official site: http://gt.moosetechnology.org/brick

To play with it, you can download a ready-made image: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifac t/gtoolkit5.zip

and, in a Bloc space, you can browse the examples: BrExampleBrowser exampleOpen

We would be happy to hear your feedback.

Cheers, Doru

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

-- Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

-- Bernardo E.C.

Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

2015-08-26 10:51 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>:

...

On 26 Aug 2015, at 10:42, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

Aha. Thanks for the help, Vincent.

Now, the next problem: Does anyone know why the "Unrecognized class definition" problem occurs? :)

It seems that

1) MC model loading of the serialised package fails 2) it falls back on using MCStReader 3) which fails to load the .st file for the definition of TBlLayoutPropertiesOwner

Maybe loading trait definitions does not work in general with MCStReader?

MCStReader is one of the place where old code was recently replaced by Ring based code (RingChunkImporter). Thierry

Marcus

On 26 Aug 2015, at 10:58, Blondeau Vincent <vincent.blondeau@worldline.com> wrote:

Loading traits only is working, there are traits in Moose and it is well working... E.g.: Trait named: #TOODependencyQueries uses: TDependencyQueries category: 'Famix-Core’

Yes, but there it might not fall back on loading the .st file but instead de-seriaize the MC model.

Vincent

-----Message d'origine----- De : Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] De la part de Marcus Denker Envoyé : mercredi 26 août 2015 10:52 À : Any question about pharo is welcome Cc : Pharo Development List Objet : Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] brick on top of bloc - preview

...

On 26 Aug 2015, at 10:42, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:

Aha. Thanks for the help, Vincent.

Now, the next problem: Does anyone know why the "Unrecognized class definition" problem occurs? :)

It seems that

1) MC model loading of the serialised package fails 2) it falls back on using MCStReader 3) which fails to load the .st file for the definition of TBlLayoutPropertiesOwner

Maybe loading trait definitions does not work in general with MCStReader?

Marcus

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Works well! Splendide! Cheers, Alexandre

On Aug 27, 2015, at 5:00 PM, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

We prepared a working image with Brick preview :) Just open it with the latest Pharo VM and you will instantly see an example browser ​ Pharo-Brick.zip ​

Cheers, Alex

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote: Hi,

We are happy to announce the first preview version of Brick, a new widget set created from scratch on top of Bloc.

Brick is being developed primarily by Alex Syrel (together with Alain Plantec, Andrei Chis and myself), and the work is sponsored by ESUG. Brick is part of the Glamorous Toolkit effort and will provide the basis for the new versions of the development tools.

Brick's goal is to provide a beautiful looking widget set, and the default look is based on material design. The widgets are theme-able.

Right now, there exists: - Label - Simple button - Toggle button - Checkbox - Radio button - Window with or without an active title bar that can include various visual actions and info - Menu - Beautiful scrollbars that are thin by default and enlarge when the mouse hovers over it - Scalable list for huge amounts of items with various heights (The list also allows one for embedding text widgets with in place editing)

The next immediate target is the creation of a new Pager widget (the widget that is behind the current GTInspector).

You can see some screenshots on the official site: http://gt.moosetechnology.org/brick

To play with it, you can download a ready-made image: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/gtoolki...

and, in a Bloc space, you can browse the examples: BrExampleBrowser exampleOpen

We would be happy to hear your feedback.

Cheers, Doru

-- www.tudorgirba.com

"Every thing has its own flow"

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Hi, Thanks for the prebuild image, works like a charm. For me is a timely reading because I'm now redesigning the interface of my project. I considered for a while jumping directly to bloc, but there is still not enough documentation, so I will go with Spec first. In fact there is a sense of continuous moving in Pharo that is nice, but can be difficult at the same time. So, some feedback: a) All the looking is pretty nice. I specially like the "Window with content" example (the one with the dog). b) I think that we need visual clues to tell apart tabs from buttons, from menus. c) I was unable to find a named menu, only the vertical suspensive points without any name. Named menus are a big advantage of Spec over GT-Tools, so will be nice to have them on this new interface. d) When you click on the examples window it doesn't raise over other windows, you need to move it to get it raised. e) Fonts seems kind of pixelated when compared between current pharo 4 and pharo + bloc. See the comparison here (left pharo 4, right: Pharo + Bloc). f) I have been looking for information on how to renew the icons of my interface and material icons are really nice. Would be useful to have them listed somehow besides the current eclipse ones. I wonder how difficult will be to migrate an interface from Spec to bloc in the future. Should I stick with Spec? Cheers, Offray Thanks and keep the good work. On 27/08/15 15:00, Aliaksei Syrel wrote:

Hi,

We prepared a working image with Brick preview :) Just open it with the latest Pharo VM and you will instantly see an example browser ​ Pharo-Brick.zip <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-bMBVDOi3oTdll3dGJValVIenc/view?usp=drive_...> ​

Cheers, Alex

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote:

Hi,

We are happy to announce the first preview version of Brick, a new widget set created from scratch on top of Bloc.

Brick is being developed primarily by Alex Syrel (together with Alain Plantec, Andrei Chis and myself), and the work is sponsored by ESUG. Brick is part of the Glamorous Toolkit effort and will provide the basis for the new versions of the development tools.

Brick's goal is to provide a beautiful looking widget set, and the default look is based on material design. The widgets are theme-able.

Right now, there exists: - Label - Simple button - Toggle button - Checkbox - Radio button - Window with or without an active title bar that can include various visual actions and info - Menu - Beautiful scrollbars that are thin by default and enlarge when the mouse hovers over it - Scalable list for huge amounts of items with various heights (The list also allows one for embedding text widgets with in place editing)

The next immediate target is the creation of a new Pager widget (the widget that is behind the current GTInspector).

You can see some screenshots on the official site: http://gt.moosetechnology.org/brick

To play with it, you can download a ready-made image: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/gtoolkit5/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/gtoolki...

and, in a Bloc space, you can browse the examples: BrExampleBrowser exampleOpen

We would be happy to hear your feedback.

Cheers, Doru

-- www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com>

"Every thing has its own flow"

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Thanks Johan, I'm willing to test your Spec-Glamour integration and finally I have the time for that. Wait for questions ;-). Cheers, Offray On 09/09/15 15:33, Johan Fabry wrote:

...

On Sep 9, 2015, at 14:16, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray@riseup.net <mailto:offray@riseup.net>> wrote:

Should I stick with Spec?

Yes. It is the UI builder for Pharo. Technologies underneath may change but Spec is designed such that it can be adapted to them.

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