Voix-basse-mourde is whisper and herkutatti is porcini. I have the Java PBE working bit identical to Squeak, but the DBL_AESede protocol is not yet installing. Then the encoders for asn1der and json need implementation and Squeak and Java will work together again. find the code here, after logging in: https://gitlab.com/des-lapins-internationale best, Rabbit