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Hi guys do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be added to http://pharo.org/about Stef
On 26 Sep 2014, at 07:25, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
Hi guys
do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be added to http://pharo.org/about
Stef
The picture should be a 70x70 PNG.
With all due respect, I am reluctant to sign this agreement. It commits me to whatever might be published at the given URL at any time in the future. I wonder why you didn't make the agreement concrete by copying the current text into it? Current contents of <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php>: "Copyright (c) <year> <copyright holders> Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE." I have no problem with signing this, but I have a problem with signing a carte blanche. --Trygve On 26.09.2014 07:25, stepharo wrote:
Hi guys
do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be added to http://pharo.org/about
Stef
-- Trygve Reenskaug mailto: trygver@ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver/ N-0378 Oslo http://fullOO.info Norway Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27
Trygve Reenskaug wrote:
With all due respect, I am reluctant to sign this agreement. It commits me to whatever might be published at the given URL at any time in the future. I wonder why you didn't make the agreement concrete by copying the current text into it?
And I thought that I paid attention to these things, but I never noticed this. I think this sounds reasonable, and indeed beneficial. cheers -ben
Current contents of <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php>:
"Copyright (c) <year> <copyright holders>
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE."
I have no problem with signing this, but I have a problem with signing a carte blanche. --Trygve
On 26.09.2014 07:25, stepharo wrote:
Hi guys
do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be added to http://pharo.org/about
Stef
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Trygve Reenskaug mailto: trygver@ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver/ N-0378 Oslo http://fullOO.info Norway Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27
Trygve We took exactly the same license process and text than squeak. This way people cannot argue that this is different because pharo is based on Squeak. It took squeak a large effort to relicense the code and we rewrote missing methods double blind to get clean. Stef On 26/9/14 10:19, Trygve Reenskaug wrote:
With all due respect, I am reluctant to sign this agreement. It commits me to whatever might be published at the given URL at any time in the future. I wonder why you didn't make the agreement concrete by copying the current text into it?
Current contents of <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php>:
"Copyright (c) <year> <copyright holders>
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE."
I have no problem with signing this, but I have a problem with signing a carte blanche. --Trygve
On 26.09.2014 07:25, stepharo wrote:
Hi guys
do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be added to http://pharo.org/about
Stef
--
Trygve Reenskaug mailto: trygver@ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver/ N-0378 Oslo http://fullOO.info Norway Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27
On 27 Sep 2014, at 07:17, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
Trygve
We took exactly the same license process and text than squeak. This way people cannot argue that this is different because pharo is based on Squeak. It took squeak a large effort to relicense the code and we rewrote missing methods double blind to get clean.
But it should be easy to change the PDF to contain the text⦠I put it on the discussion for the board meeting. Marcus
Stef
On 26/9/14 10:19, Trygve Reenskaug wrote:
With all due respect, I am reluctant to sign this agreement. It commits me to whatever might be published at the given URL at any time in the future. I wonder why you didn't make the agreement concrete by copying the current text into it?
Current contents of <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php>: "Copyright (c) <year> <copyright holders>
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE." I have no problem with signing this, but I have a problem with signing a carte blanche. --Trygve
On 26.09.2014 07:25, stepharo wrote:
Hi guys
do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be added to http://pharo.org/about
Stef
--
Trygve Reenskaug mailto: trygver@ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver/ N-0378 Oslo http://fullOO.info Norway Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27
On 27.09.2014 09:26, Marcus Denker wrote:
On 27 Sep 2014, at 07:17, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
Trygve
We took exactly the same license process and text than squeak. This way people cannot argue that this is different because pharo is based on Squeak. It took squeak a large effort to relicense the code and we rewrote missing methods double blind to get clean.
But it should be easy to change the PDF to contain the text⦠I put it on the discussion for the board meeting.
Marcus
Much better, thank you. It's already here http://pharo.org/license Trygve
stepharo wrote:
Trygve
We took exactly the same license process and text than squeak. This way people cannot argue that this is different because pharo is based on Squeak. It took squeak a large effort to relicense the code and we rewrote missing methods double blind to get clean.
Stef
Lucky its MIT licensed, so you can change the license as you like to... MIT again ;] cheers -ben P.S. I am really glad for the effort put into getting Squeak/Pharo MIT licensed.
On 26/9/14 10:19, Trygve Reenskaug wrote:
With all due respect, I am reluctant to sign this agreement. It commits me to whatever might be published at the given URL at any time in the future. I wonder why you didn't make the agreement concrete by copying the current text into it?
Current contents of <http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php>:
"Copyright (c) <year> <copyright holders>
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE."
I have no problem with signing this, but I have a problem with signing a carte blanche. --Trygve
On 26.09.2014 07:25, stepharo wrote:
Hi guys
do not forget to sign the license agreement http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf and send us your picture to be added to http://pharo.org/about
Stef
--
Trygve Reenskaug mailto: trygver@ifi.uio.no Morgedalsvn. 5A http://folk.uio.no/trygver/ N-0378 Oslo http://fullOO.info Norway Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27
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Trygve Reenskaug