Hi all, Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are? I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared... Cheers, Stewart
Hi Steward, there is a PharoSound package (with code coming from Squeak): https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound with MIDI stuff inside. Apparently there is another project: https://github.com/NikalMight/Midi-Messages That would be nice to put more love in this :-) Regards, On Sun, 15 May 2022 at 12:07, Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
-- Serge Stinckwic hâ https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich â
Hi Serge, Thanks for the links. Yes, some love is needed! I have an interface that I built years ago in VisualWorks that worked with the PortMidi and RtMidi libraries. Not being a C programmer this was a major challenge. Looks like I might have to do it again! Cheers, Stewart On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 9:15 PM Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Steward,
there is a PharoSound package (with code coming from Squeak): https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound with MIDI stuff inside.
Apparently there is another project: https://github.com/NikalMight/Midi-Messages
That would be nice to put more love in this :-)
Regards,
On Sun, 15 May 2022 at 12:07, Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
-- Serge Stinckwic hâ https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich â
Hi all! In inria we are working with an student on the bindings of PortMIDI in Pharo, and having some exchanges with an italian Dj that uses pharo for live-performances (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBK0UpalBfk) We are trying to recover, in the long term the things in https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound, since there are awesome! If you have ideas feel free to share them! Santiago El dom, 15 may 2022 a las 6:07, Stewart MacLean (<stewart@xtra.co.nz>) escribió:
Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
Hi Santiago, Thanks for this. My primary interest at the moment is interfacing with Midi. The sound stuff looks interesting, even if it is not quite my cup of tea music wise :) How far has your student got with the PortMidi bindings? As a first step, as I can get a precompiled library via homebrew I thought I'd start by migrating my VisualWorks PortMidi bindings - are they able to share this to get me started? I have built a Midi Access Layer (in VisualWorks) which layers over both RtMidi and PortMidi, which I had working on Windows quite a while ago. This maybe useful? Cheers, Stewart On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 11:48 PM Santiago Bragagnolo < santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all! In inria we are working with an student on the bindings of PortMIDI in Pharo, and having some exchanges with an italian Dj that uses pharo for live-performances (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBK0UpalBfk)
We are trying to recover, in the long term the things in https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound, since there are awesome!
If you have ideas feel free to share them!
Santiago
El dom, 15 may 2022 a las 6:07, Stewart MacLean (<stewart@xtra.co.nz>) escribió:
Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
Antoine can you reply to Stewart?
On 16 May 2022, at 01:03, Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Santiago,
Thanks for this. My primary interest at the moment is interfacing with Midi.
The sound stuff looks interesting, even if it is not quite my cup of tea music wise :)
How far has your student got with the PortMidi bindings? As a first step, as I can get a precompiled library via homebrew I thought I'd start by migrating my VisualWorks PortMidi bindings - are they able to share this to get me started?
I have built a Midi Access Layer (in VisualWorks) which layers over both RtMidi and PortMidi, which I had working on Windows quite a while ago. This maybe useful?
Cheers,
Stewart
On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 11:48 PM Santiago Bragagnolo <santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com <mailto:santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all! In inria we are working with an student on the bindings of PortMIDI in Pharo, and having some exchanges with an italian Dj that uses pharo for live-performances (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBK0UpalBfk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBK0UpalBfk>)
We are trying to recover, in the long term the things in https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound <https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound>, since there are awesome!
If you have ideas feel free to share them!
Santiago
El dom, 15 may 2022 a las 6:07, Stewart MacLean (<stewart@xtra.co.nz <mailto:stewart@xtra.co.nz>>) escribió: Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
Hi Antoine, For some reason your message below didn't come to me, I just "stumbled" across it. Thanks for the link to your work, it looks interesting. For now, I'm focused on the "plumbing", and this will be a great help with getting the FFI library going and I'll share my thoughts along the way! I've just started porting my dusty VisualWorks MidiAccessLayer that utilises PortMidi and RtMidi. Once I've got it in shape I'll be glad to share it with you. Cheers, Stewart Hello Stewart, Indeed I am working on PortMidi C library binding on Pharo. For now, the code I wrote contains an object that represents the C library and you can use its methods to try some MIDI stuff. I added several layers to these methods to make it easier to use. You can also create what I call scores which are sequences of notes and play them either separately or add them in an object called Prestation that is able to play several scores at the same time. You can find the code on GitHub : https://github.com/pharo-contributions/pharo-sound . Do not hesitate to tell me what you think about it ! Antoine On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 2:23 AM stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Antoine can you reply to Stewart?
On 16 May 2022, at 01:03, Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Santiago,
Thanks for this. My primary interest at the moment is interfacing with Midi.
The sound stuff looks interesting, even if it is not quite my cup of tea music wise :)
How far has your student got with the PortMidi bindings? As a first step, as I can get a precompiled library via homebrew I thought I'd start by migrating my VisualWorks PortMidi bindings - are they able to share this to get me started?
I have built a Midi Access Layer (in VisualWorks) which layers over both RtMidi and PortMidi, which I had working on Windows quite a while ago. This maybe useful?
Cheers,
Stewart
On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 11:48 PM Santiago Bragagnolo < santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all! In inria we are working with an student on the bindings of PortMIDI in Pharo, and having some exchanges with an italian Dj that uses pharo for live-performances (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBK0UpalBfk)
We are trying to recover, in the long term the things in https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound, since there are awesome!
If you have ideas feel free to share them!
Santiago
El dom, 15 may 2022 a las 6:07, Stewart MacLean (<stewart@xtra.co.nz>) escribió:
Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
Hi All, Prompted by a recent chat with Domenico on Discord, I've dusted off the Midi package I was working on and added some background notes, getting started etc. I've yet to get it to Git, but please find it attached. Thank you all very much for your assistance with the development of this package - I hope it may be useful for the Pharo community! Cheers, Stewart On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:07 AM Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Antoine,
For some reason your message below didn't come to me, I just "stumbled" across it.
Thanks for the link to your work, it looks interesting.
For now, I'm focused on the "plumbing", and this will be a great help with getting the FFI library going and I'll share my thoughts along the way!
I've just started porting my dusty VisualWorks MidiAccessLayer that utilises PortMidi and RtMidi. Once I've got it in shape I'll be glad to share it with you.
Cheers,
Stewart
Hello Stewart,
Indeed I am working on PortMidi C library binding on Pharo.
For now, the code I wrote contains an object that represents the C library and you can use its methods to try some MIDI stuff. I added several layers to these methods to make it easier to use. You can also create what I call scores which are sequences of notes and play them either separately or add them in an object called Prestation that is able to play several scores at the same time.
You can find the code on GitHub : https://github.com/pharo-contributions/pharo-sound .
Do not hesitate to tell me what you think about it !
Antoine
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 2:23 AM stephane ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Antoine can you reply to Stewart?
On 16 May 2022, at 01:03, Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Santiago,
Thanks for this. My primary interest at the moment is interfacing with Midi.
The sound stuff looks interesting, even if it is not quite my cup of tea music wise :)
How far has your student got with the PortMidi bindings? As a first step, as I can get a precompiled library via homebrew I thought I'd start by migrating my VisualWorks PortMidi bindings - are they able to share this to get me started?
I have built a Midi Access Layer (in VisualWorks) which layers over both RtMidi and PortMidi, which I had working on Windows quite a while ago. This maybe useful?
Cheers,
Stewart
On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 11:48 PM Santiago Bragagnolo < santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all! In inria we are working with an student on the bindings of PortMIDI in Pharo, and having some exchanges with an italian Dj that uses pharo for live-performances (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBK0UpalBfk)
We are trying to recover, in the long term the things in https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound, since there are awesome!
If you have ideas feel free to share them!
Santiago
El dom, 15 may 2022 a las 6:07, Stewart MacLean (<stewart@xtra.co.nz>) escribió:
Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
Hi antoine is not working with us anymore. We are looking for another student. I think that it would be great that someone looks at what he did. S
On 13 Jan 2023, at 03:08, Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
Hi All,
Prompted by a recent chat with Domenico on Discord, I've dusted off the Midi package I was working on and added some background notes, getting started etc. I've yet to get it to Git, but please find it attached.
Thank you all very much for your assistance with the development of this package - I hope it may be useful for the Pharo community!
Cheers,
Stewart
On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 1:07 AM Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz <mailto:stewart@xtra.co.nz>> wrote:
Hi Antoine,
For some reason your message below didn't come to me, I just "stumbled" across it.
Thanks for the link to your work, it looks interesting.
For now, I'm focused on the "plumbing", and this will be a great help with getting the FFI library going and I'll share my thoughts along the way!
I've just started porting my dusty VisualWorks MidiAccessLayer that utilises PortMidi and RtMidi. Once I've got it in shape I'll be glad to share it with you.
Cheers,
Stewart
Hello Stewart,
Indeed I am working on PortMidi C library binding on Pharo.
For now, the code I wrote contains an object that represents the C library and you can use its methods to try some MIDI stuff. I added several layers to these methods to make it easier to use. You can also create what I call scores which are sequences of notes and play them either separately or add them in an object called Prestation that is able to play several scores at the same time.
You can find the code on GitHub : https://github.com/pharo-contributions/pharo-sound .
Do not hesitate to tell me what you think about it !
Antoine
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 2:23 AM stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote:
Antoine can you reply to Stewart?
On 16 May 2022, at 01:03, Stewart MacLean <stewart@xtra.co.nz <mailto:stewart@xtra.co.nz>> wrote:
Hi Santiago,
Thanks for this. My primary interest at the moment is interfacing with Midi.
The sound stuff looks interesting, even if it is not quite my cup of tea music wise :)
How far has your student got with the PortMidi bindings? As a first step, as I can get a precompiled library via homebrew I thought I'd start by migrating my VisualWorks PortMidi bindings - are they able to share this to get me started?
I have built a Midi Access Layer (in VisualWorks) which layers over both RtMidi and PortMidi, which I had working on Windows quite a while ago. This maybe useful?
Cheers,
Stewart
On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 11:48 PM Santiago Bragagnolo <santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com <mailto:santiagobragagnolo@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all! In inria we are working with an student on the bindings of PortMIDI in Pharo, and having some exchanges with an italian Dj that uses pharo for live-performances (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBK0UpalBfk)
We are trying to recover, in the long term the things in https://github.com/pharo-contributions/Sound, since there are awesome!
If you have ideas feel free to share them!
Santiago
El dom, 15 may 2022 a las 6:07, Stewart MacLean (<stewart@xtra.co.nz <mailto:stewart@xtra.co.nz>>) escribió:
Hi all,
Just wondering what the current state of interfaces to MIDI within Pharo are?
I gather that there was one (SoundScores that used primitives), but that seems to have disappeared...
Cheers,
Stewart
<SIM-Midi-Access-Layer.st>
Hello Stewart, Indeed I am working on PortMidi C library binding on Pharo. For now, the code I wrote contains an object that represents the C library and you can use its methods to try some MIDI stuff. I added several layers to these methods to make it easier to use. You can also create what I call scores which are sequences of notes and play them either separately or add them in an object called Prestation that is able to play several scores at the same time. You can find the code on GitHub : https://github.com/pharo-contributions/pharo-sound . Do not hesitate to tell me what you think about it ! Antoine
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