Hi I am posting here instead of the Magritte group as the readership is high. Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number of forms and sub forms. This is to be used in Pharo9 + Seaside +Willow. I am putting this question as i do not see much mention of Magritte in forums / discord of late, whereas by its description the package seems to fit a space for applications with many domain objects and associated forms. regards Sanjay ----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Sanjay Minni wrote
Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number of forms and sub forms.
I use Magritte extensively (for almost all my projects), and have found it irreplaceable, but nearly all in desktop apps. Maybe cross-post to the Seaside list if you don't get an answer here... ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
thanks Magritte is a chapter by itself in Seaside Book and also its mentioned in Stephane's booklet that Seside is shipped with Magritte so I assume that they are well integrated. The next vital thing for me is if Willow+Bootstrap4 works well with Magritte+Seaside (in Pharo9), then I have most of what I need Sean P. DeNigris wrote
Sanjay Minni wrote
Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number of forms and sub forms.
I use Magritte extensively (for almost all my projects), and have found it irreplaceable, but nearly all in desktop apps. Maybe cross-post to the Seaside list if you don't get an answer here...
----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Hi Sean May be we should update the Magrrite booklet. I never got the time to go over it. S.
On 23 Nov 2020, at 15:56, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:
Sanjay Minni wrote
Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number of forms and sub forms.
I use Magritte extensively (for almost all my projects), and have found it irreplaceable, but nearly all in desktop apps. Maybe cross-post to the Seaside list if you don't get an answer here...
----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
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Please! I have only seen examples with seaside. Could you add any desktop app example? Thanks. Sebastián El 4/12/20 a las 21:19, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Hi Sean
May be we should update the Magrrite booklet. I never got the time to go over it.
S.
On 23 Nov 2020, at 15:56, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com <mailto:sean@clipperadams.com>> wrote:
Sanjay Minni wrote
Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number of forms and sub forms.
I use Magritte extensively (for almost all my projects), and have found it irreplaceable, but nearly all in desktop apps. Maybe cross-post to the Seaside list if you don't get an answer here...
----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
-------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Aurore Dalle FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
Maybe we should update the Magrrite booklet. I never got the time to go over it.
I can help. Yes, it is probably time. There have been lots of small additions and changes. I also plan on doing Spec2 bindings as soon as P9 is released. That might be a good time also because I'm swamped the next few weeks... ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Hi, Examples in the magritte booklet "meta data at work ... " show pragmas <magritte Description> (pg 2.2). Are the pragmas required since I don't seem to have found any mention elsewhere (i.e. Lukas Renggli's papers, SAGs seaside tutorial, Ramon Leons blogs ...) Sean P. DeNigris wrote
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
Maybe we should update the Magrrite booklet. I never got the time to go over it.
I can help. Yes, it is probably time. There have been lots of small additions and changes. I also plan on doing Spec2 bindings as soon as P9 is released. That might be a good time also because I'm swamped the next few weeks...
----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
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Sanjay Minni wrote
<magritte Description> ... Are the pragmas required
Yes, annotating methods is how they are registered as part of the Magritte description. There have been several non-backward-compatible Magritte versions (currently on v. 3), so that may have been added later; note that these methods should be on the instance side, unlike in the original Magritte. Here is an example: MyClass>>#descriptionHasMetacelloConfiguration <magritteDescription> ^ MABooleanDescription new priority: 250; accessor: #hasMetacelloConfiguration; beReadOnly; beRequired; yourself p.s. happy to discuss here, but we also added a discussion place to the GH repo: https://github.com/magritte-metamodel/magritte/discussions p.p.s. there is a Magritte ML, but it doesn't get much traffic ----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Thanks - I will make further postings in Magritte ML (just subscribed) ML and Discord are friendlier and visible even to the non subscribers than GH discussion boards ,,, my view Sean P. DeNigris wrote
Sanjay Minni wrote
<magritte Description>
... Are the pragmas required
Yes, annotating methods is how they are registered as part of the Magritte description. There have been several non-backward-compatible Magritte versions (currently on v. 3), so that may have been added later; note that these methods should be on the instance side, unlike in the original Magritte. Here is an example:
MyClass>>#descriptionHasMetacelloConfiguration
<magritteDescription> ^ MABooleanDescription new priority: 250; accessor: #hasMetacelloConfiguration; beReadOnly; beRequired; yourself
p.s. happy to discuss here, but we also added a discussion place to the GH repo: https://github.com/magritte-metamodel/magritte/discussions p.p.s. there is a Magritte ML, but it doesn't get much traffic
----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
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Am posing messages on GH Repo Disc Board while awaiting subscription approval to Magritte ML Sanjay Sean P. DeNigris wrote
Sanjay Minni wrote
<magritte Description>
... Are the pragmas required
Yes, annotating methods is how they are registered as part of the Magritte description. There have been several non-backward-compatible Magritte versions (currently on v. 3), so that may have been added later; note that these methods should be on the instance side, unlike in the original Magritte. Here is an example:
MyClass>>#descriptionHasMetacelloConfiguration
<magritteDescription> ^ MABooleanDescription new priority: 250; accessor: #hasMetacelloConfiguration; beReadOnly; beRequired; yourself
p.s. happy to discuss here, but we also added a discussion place to the GH repo: https://github.com/magritte-metamodel/magritte/discussions p.p.s. there is a Magritte ML, but it doesn't get much traffic
----- Cheers, Sean -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Sanjay, I, too, am interested in Magritte. I'd appreciate it if you'd post whatever you learn back to this list? Thanks, Russ On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 3:10 AM Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com> wrote:
Hi
I am posting here instead of the Magritte group as the readership is high.
Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number of forms and sub forms.
This is to be used in Pharo9 + Seaside +Willow.
I am putting this question as i do not see much mention of Magritte in forums / discord of late, whereas by its description the package seems to fit a space for applications with many domain objects and associated forms.
regards Sanjay
----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
-- Russ Whaley whaley.russ@gmail.com
sure, I will be putting queries on this thread which will also indicate where I am, you can always reach out anyways the main objective now will be to get a Magritte based single form UI working under Willow (BS4) for the appearance and then a master+detail form I would be using MongoDB Note: but i would be very slow Russ Whaley wrote
Sanjay, I, too, am interested in Magritte. I'd appreciate it if you'd post whatever you learn back to this list?
Thanks, Russ
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 3:10 AM Sanjay Minni <
sm@
> wrote:
Hi
I am posting here instead of the Magritte group as the readership is high.
Is Magritte a robust enough package for an application with a large number of forms and sub forms.
This is to be used in Pharo9 + Seaside +Willow.
I am putting this question as i do not see much mention of Magritte in forums / discord of late, whereas by its description the package seems to fit a space for applications with many domain objects and associated forms.
regards Sanjay
----- cheers, Sanjay -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
-- Russ Whaley
whaley.russ@
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