It needs to be improved (mainly missing menus actions). check the Ondo package in MCHttpRepository location: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/StephaneDucasse/PetitsBazars/main' user: '' password: '' I did two experiences (I wanted to see if I could build a browser only using announcements but I failed) the other one is working but needs more love. You can write on this project now Stef On 14/5/14 12:35, Robert Shiplett wrote:

I volunteer as a test user for this mini-B and DrGeo !

- Windows XP and 7 - various Linux

DrGeo rules !

On 14 May 2014 07:26, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:

Hello,

With Pahro 1.4,

Browser newOnClass: Number selector: #+

use to open a minimal browser on the selected method (btw, it is broken now)

With: Nautilus newOnClass: Number selector: #+

I get a full browser on the method. Is it possible to have a minimal browser with Nautilus? I need it in DrGeo to let users edit scripts, I don't want them to be confused by a full browser.

I did a small browser called ondoBrowser we could work together to make it simple for your users.

Basically I have two columns

Classes | methods ---------------- text method

Stef

Le 14/05/2014 20:31, Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :

Could be yes. Needed action is editing&recompiling code and creating new method in a given class as shown in the screenshot from DrGeo 13.10: even this one is a temporary solution because still too much is exposed to the user as the class/instance button,...

Have you considered controlling the user experience directly to let him focus only on the method to create or edit? Creating a text editor window in coding mode with the ability to edit or create a method in a preset class is not much work; I'd say around 20 lines with the default menu and an accept which compiles. If you want complete control on the menu (i.e. a bit more polish than the default and control over which shortcuts are active), I can extract what I've done for mine: it's a minimal command objects API to couple menus and shortcuts inspired by the one of the OmniBrowser (of Pharo 1.4). In there, a typical command with its shortcut/label/icon/activation status is about five lines long. The example I showed you is a full browser, but in which all actions, refactorings and searches will be limited to the class. I still think it is a bit too much for you use case. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Le 15/05/2014 09:29, Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :

Thierry,

I was not aware it could be that short. Yes it will be nice. All in all: - one GUI tool to edit an existing script (so no visibility on the other methods of the class)

Hilaire, Would you need the script to hide the fact it is a method or not? I.e. make it DSL-Like and hide the method header and its parameters?

- one GUI tool to create a method (with visibility to the other method of the class, as possible examples)

Does it includes the ability to modify existing methods? I ask that to see if we need to hide much of what makes a system browser in Smalltalk, or, to the contrary, if it is a good idea to open up to the browser world so as to introduce the user (maybe advanced) to the underlying Pharo so as to allow for more powerfull extensions. If we need to hide, then it will be with a dedicated GUI. If we open up, then a restricted browser is best (and then, if we want to keep to standards in Pharo, it means Nautilus). Is DrGeo development open so that I may write it myself ? Thierry

Hilaire

Le 15/05/2014 09:18, Goubier Thierry a écrit :

...

Have you considered controlling the user experience directly to let him focus only on the method to create or edit?

Creating a text editor window in coding mode with the ability to edit or create a method in a preset class is not much work; I'd say around 20 lines with the default menu and an accept which compiles.

If you want complete control on the menu (i.e. a bit more polish than the default and control over which shortcuts are active), I can extract what I've done for mine: it's a minimal command objects API to couple menus and shortcuts inspired by the one of the OmniBrowser (of Pharo 1.4). In there, a typical command with its shortcut/label/icon/activation status is about five lines long.

-- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

With Spec, it is really easy to make some simple widgets: "you have a class and a method?" class:=Morph. method:=class>>#openInWorld. "want some textmorp?" code := TextModel new. code text:method sourceCode. "with styling?" code aboutToStyle:true. "in context of the class" code behavior:class. "do it!" code openWithSpec. "more? save on accept..." code acceptBlock:[:text | class compile:text notifying:nil. ]. Composing models: class:=Morph. method:=class>>#openInWorld. composed:= DynamicComposableModel new. composed instantiateModels: #(code TextModel method TextInputFieldModel). composed code text:method sourceCode. composed method text: method selector asString. composed code aboutToStyle:true. composed code behavior:class. composed code acceptBlock:[:text | class compile:text notifying:nil. ]. composed method acceptBlock:[:text | method:=class methodDict at:text asSymbol. composed code text:method sourceCode. ]. composed openWithSpecLayout:( SpecLayout composed newColumn:[:r | r add: #method height:25; add: #code]; yourself). or search for DynamicComposableModel in this mailing list or look at some other basic Spec examples in Pharo: | cb | cb := ClassMethodBrowser new. cb openWithSpec. cb classes: Smalltalk allClasses. | si | si := MethodBrowser new. si openWithSpec. si methods: Object methodDict values 2014-05-15 9:29 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>:

Thierry,

I was not aware it could be that short. Yes it will be nice. All in all: - one GUI tool to edit an existing script (so no visibility on the other methods of the class) - one GUI tool to create a method (with visibility to the other method of the class, as possible examples)

Hilaire

Le 15/05/2014 09:18, Goubier Thierry a écrit :

...

Have you considered controlling the user experience directly to let him focus only on the method to create or edit?

Creating a text editor window in coding mode with the ability to edit or create a method in a preset class is not much work; I'd say around 20 lines with the default menu and an accept which compiles.

If you want complete control on the menu (i.e. a bit more polish than the default and control over which shortcuts are active), I can extract what I've done for mine: it's a minimal command objects API to couple menus and shortcuts inspired by the one of the OmniBrowser (of Pharo 1.4). In there, a typical command with its shortcut/label/icon/activation status is about five lines long.

-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu