[Modeling with Pharo] How to model a simple human interaction.
Hey all.. I got my first paying gig that i am able to use pharo with, and i am on the last leg before calling it complete. Hereâs what I need to do.. This application accepts SMS text messages. It allows the user to send images via MMS and place an order to a print house for those images..  it then compiles the order, and submits it to the order processing system and makes the prints. The last thing I need to zero in on is handling the interaction. Believe it or not, I have never modeled such an interaction. The interaction goes: - user sends images{s) - bot says âthanksâ and asks if there are more - user types âdoneâ or sends more - on âdoneâ bot asks for print size - bot says âthanksâ and the interaction is done. order is processed. my first inclination is to use a state machine, progressing through order each time the user enters âdoneâ.. does this sound reasonable, or is there a better model/design pattern for this interaction? Thanks! ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
Hi sergio
Hey all..
I got my first paying gig that i am able to use pharo with, and i am on the last leg before calling it complete.
super! I'm really happy for you. just this makes pharo and all our effort worth it.
Hereâs what I need to do..
This application accepts SMS text messages. It allows the user to send images via MMS and place an order to a print house for those images.. it then compiles the order, and >submits it to the order processing system and makes the prints.
The last thing I need to zero in on is handling the interaction. Believe it or not, I have never modeled such an interaction. The interaction goes:
- user sends images{s) - bot says âthanksâ and asks if there are more - user types âdoneâ or sends more - on âdoneâ bot asks for print size - bot says âthanksâ and the interaction is done. order is processed.
my first inclination is to use a state machine, progressing through order each time the user enters âdoneâ..
does this sound reasonable,
Yes it seems. After you could also have a queue of command.
or is there a better model/design pattern for this interaction?
You can look at the state pattern. It is good for implementing state machine. Stef
Thanks!
---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary
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This may be overkill for your use but would love to have an MIT licensed set of classes that allow for/enable something like this: https://medium.com/assist/theres-a-dozen-ways-to-order-a-coffee-why-do-dumb-... sergio ruiz wrote
Hey all..
I got my first paying gig that i am able to use pharo with, and i am on the last leg before calling it complete.
Hereâs what I need to do..
This application accepts SMS text messages. It allows the user to send images via MMS and place an order to a print house for those images.. Â it then compiles the order, and submits it to the order processing system and makes the prints.
The last thing I need to zero in on is handling the interaction. Believe it or not, I have never modeled such an interaction. The interaction goes:
- user sends images{s) - bot says âthanksâ and asks if there are more - user types âdoneâ or sends more - on âdoneâ bot asks for print size - bot says âthanksâ and the interaction is done. order is processed.
my first inclination is to use a state machine, progressing through order each time the user enters âdoneâ..Â
does this sound reasonable, or is there a better model/design pattern for this interaction?
Thanks!
---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary
Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
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Looks awesome. Now, how hard would it be to reuse a WATask from Seaside from normal, non web code? A lot of WAxxx concepts could be brought back into nornal "Spec/Morphic" apps, like WASession, WATask, filters etc. Phil On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic@gmail.com> wrote:
This may be overkill for your use but would love to have an MIT licensed set of classes that allow for/enable something like this:
https://medium.com/assist/theres-a-dozen-ways-to-order- a-coffee-why-do-dumb-bots-only-allow-one-27230542636d#.laljhpyt5
sergio ruiz wrote
Hey all..
I got my first paying gig that i am able to use pharo with, and i am on the last leg before calling it complete.
Hereâs what I need to do..
This application accepts SMS text messages. It allows the user to send images via MMS and place an order to a print house for those images.. it then compiles the order, and submits it to the order processing system and makes the prints.
The last thing I need to zero in on is handling the interaction. Believe it or not, I have never modeled such an interaction. The interaction goes:
- user sends images{s) - bot says âthanksâ and asks if there are more - user types âdoneâ or sends more - on âdoneâ bot asks for print size - bot says âthanksâ and the interaction is done. order is processed.
my first inclination is to use a state machine, progressing through order each time the user enters âdoneâ..
does this sound reasonable, or is there a better model/design pattern for this interaction?
Thanks!
---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary
Public Key: http://bit.ly/29z9fG0 #BitMessage BM-NBaswViL21xqgg9STRJjaJaUoyiNe2dV http://www.Village-Buzz.com http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2017 00:42:44 +0100, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic@gmail.com> wrote:
This may be overkill for your use but would love to have an MIT licensed set of classes that allow for/enable something like this:
https://medium.com/assist/theres-a-dozen-ways-to-order-a-coffee-why-do-dumb-...
looks nice. the first step is to have something basic and improve. Stef
Your using an object-oriented language, why not use an object /domain model/? Consider that Kristen Nygaard stated that an object-oriented "program execution is regarded as a physical model, simulating the behavior of either a real or imaginary part of the world." By physical model, he really is meaning a "direct model" where you /directly /represent the concepts of your problem domain as objects that interact with each other. Sure, you could use a state machine, but why build a model (your domain problem) on top of a model (a state machine) using a paradigm intended to support a different way. State machines are a favored way to model process and state in functional programming. A domain model would separate the user interaction from your domain problem itself. You would model an Order that knows a User and one or more Images. Anyway, hopefully some food for thought. -- Aryeh -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Modeling-with-Pharo-How-to-model-a-simple-human-intera... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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