A question about Pharoâs Vision document
Dear Pharo community, At the beginning of this 2012-document : https://inria.hal.science/hal-01879346/document we can read the following sentence (page 4) : "Objects all the way down" Please what is the meaning (in this context) of the adjective "down" ? -- All the best Rene Paul Mages (ramix) GnuPG key : 0x9840A6F7 https://sites.google.com/view/les-logiciels-libres/pharo https://sites.google.com/view/renepaulmages/propriete-intellectuelle https://twitter.com/RenePaulMages
« All the way down » is an English expression that in this case means: at every stage of a situation or activity https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/all-the-way-down-the-li...
Le 20 août 2024 à 09:15, Rene Paul Mages (ramix) <pharo@rmages.com> a écrit :
Dear Pharo community,
At the beginning of this 2012-document :
https://inria.hal.science/hal-01879346/document
we can read the following sentence (page 4) :
"Objects all the way down"
Please what is the meaning (in this context) of the adjective "down" ?
-- All the best Rene Paul Mages (ramix) GnuPG key : 0x9840A6F7 https://sites.google.com/view/les-logiciels-libres/pharo https://sites.google.com/view/renepaulmages/propriete-intellectuelle https://twitter.com/RenePaulMages
Salut René, It's inspired by the mythology of a world hold by infinite towers of turtles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down Noury On Aug 20 2024, at 10:02 am, Inria <sebastian.jordan@inria.fr> wrote:
« All the way down » is an English expression that in this case means: at every stage of a situation or activity
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/all-the-way-down-the-li...
Le 20 août 2024 à 09:15, Rene Paul Mages (ramix) <pharo@rmages.com> a écrit :
Dear Pharo community,
At the beginning of this 2012-document :
https://inria.hal.science/hal-01879346/document
we can read the following sentence (page 4) :
"Objects all the way down"
Please what is the meaning (in this context) of the adjective "down" ?
-- All the best Rene Paul Mages (ramix) GnuPG key : 0x9840A6F7 https://sites.google.com/view/les-logiciels-libres/pharo https://sites.google.com/view/renepaulmages/propriete-intellectuelle https://twitter.com/RenePaulMages
I think of this as a reference to the phrase âTurtles all the way down.â This is an allusion to the idea that the world is a dome-shaped turtle that stands on another turtle that stands on another turtle. How far? âWhy, it is turtles all the way down.â In this theory, âdownâ is not toward the center of a sphere, but has an absolute direction and implies invinite recursion. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down. The idea is that Smalltalk is pure objects, made up of objects, made up of objects. How far? âObjects, all the way down.â Here âdownâ implies infinite recursion. James Foster
On Aug 20, 2024, at 12:15â¯AM, Rene Paul Mages (ramix) <pharo@rmages.com> wrote:
Dear Pharo community,
At the beginning of this 2012-document :
https://inria.hal.science/hal-01879346/document
we can read the following sentence (page 4) :
"Objects all the way down"
Please what is the meaning (in this context) of the adjective "down" ?
-- All the best Rene Paul Mages (ramix) GnuPG key : 0x9840A6F7 https://sites.google.com/view/les-logiciels-libres/pharo https://sites.google.com/view/renepaulmages/propriete-intellectuelle https://twitter.com/RenePaulMages
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Inria -
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Rene Paul Mages (ramix)