Where do I find a Pillar syntax summary?
Hello There is a tutorial for the Pillar document writing system [1]. The Pharo 6 catalog entry shows that the Pillar syntax goes back to the Pier CMS syntax of Lukas Renggli [2]. There is a syntax summary for the Pier CMS http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax [3] I assume that most this still applies for Pillar? But I can imagine that there have here been updates / changes / extensions. I am looking for a Pillar syntax summary ("cheat sheet"). Is this available somewhere? Kind regards Hannes [1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu... [2] Pharo 6.1 catalog entry for Pillar Pillar is a wiki-like syntax, its document model, a parser for it, and a set of exporters (e.g., HTML, LaTeX, Markdown...). Pillar is primarily used as the wiki syntax behind the *Pier CMS>http://piercms.com*. Pillar is also being used to write books: e.g., *the Enterprise Pharo book>http://books.pharo.org/*. The original creator of Pillar (formerly known as ''the syntax behind the Pier CMS'') is Lukas Renggli. Nevertheless, *Damien Cassou>damien.cassou@inria.fr* is now the maintainer. The website is at *http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar*. Issues should be reported to *https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues* [3] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3700 has some information about Pier. It refers to a Smallwiki mailing list which is active. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/ e.g. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2016-November/008051.html with an announcment 'Pier3 with latest Pillar'
I do not know about a stylesheet. Stef On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:25 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello
There is a tutorial for the Pillar document writing system [1]. The Pharo 6 catalog entry shows that the Pillar syntax goes back to the Pier CMS syntax of Lukas Renggli [2].
There is a syntax summary for the Pier CMS
http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax [3]
I assume that most this still applies for Pillar? But I can imagine that there have here been updates / changes / extensions.
I am looking for a Pillar syntax summary ("cheat sheet"). Is this available somewhere?
Kind regards
Hannes
[1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
[2] Pharo 6.1 catalog entry for Pillar
Pillar is a wiki-like syntax, its document model, a parser for it, and a set of exporters (e.g., HTML, LaTeX, Markdown...). Pillar is primarily used as the wiki syntax behind the *Pier CMS>http://piercms.com*. Pillar is also being used to write books: e.g., *the Enterprise Pharo book>http://books.pharo.org/*.
The original creator of Pillar (formerly known as ''the syntax behind the Pier CMS'') is Lukas Renggli. Nevertheless, *Damien Cassou>damien.cassou@inria.fr* is now the maintainer. The website is at *http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar*. Issues should be reported to *https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues*
[3] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3700 has some information about Pier. It refers to a Smallwiki mailing list which is active.
https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/
e.g. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2016-November/008051.html with an announcment 'Pier3 with latest Pillar'
Le 22/08/2017 à 09:25, H. Hirzel a écrit :
Hello
There is a tutorial for the Pillar document writing system [1]. The Pharo 6 catalog entry shows that the Pillar syntax goes back to the Pier CMS syntax of Lukas Renggli [2].
There is a syntax summary for the Pier CMS
http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax [3]
I assume that most this still applies for Pillar? But I can imagine that there have here been updates / changes / extensions.
I am looking for a Pillar syntax summary ("cheat sheet"). Is this available somewhere?
Kind regards
Hannes
Hi! For everything before 2015 there is this one: https://www.cheatography.com/benjaminvanryseghem/cheat-sheets/pillar/ But everything added after 2015 there is none :( Also there was a change of syntax on the links but I don't remember which one. The correct syntax should be in the PDF you referenced in [1]. I'll add an issue to the Pillar repo to create such a sheet but I will not have the time to do it. (At least not now)
[1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
[2] Pharo 6.1 catalog entry for Pillar
Pillar is a wiki-like syntax, its document model, a parser for it, and a set of exporters (e.g., HTML, LaTeX, Markdown...). Pillar is primarily used as the wiki syntax behind the *Pier CMS>http://piercms.com*. Pillar is also being used to write books: e.g., *the Enterprise Pharo book>http://books.pharo.org/*.
The original creator of Pillar (formerly known as ''the syntax behind the Pier CMS'') is Lukas Renggli. Nevertheless, *Damien Cassou>damien.cassou@inria.fr* is now the maintainer. The website is at *http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar*. Issues should be reported to *https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues*
[3] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3700 has some information about Pier. It refers to a Smallwiki mailing list which is active.
https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/
e.g. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2016-November/008051.html with an announcment 'Pier3 with latest Pillar'
-- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
Cyril I imagine that you refer to link ref with *@...* Yes we should probably produce a stylesheet. Now I'm busy finishing the new lecture. Since we could not reproduce the Pillar image for Pharo 40 (because of a bug in metacello) luc pushed the Pharo mooc to Pharo 50. Luc created a makefile producer from the pillar.conf and friday we will do a day with damien on having the new makefile on all the booklets + travis. So that I can have one way to do things for all the project. I want to deprecate all the postBuild.sh creation in all the projects. But lecture first Stef On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 22/08/2017 à 09:25, H. Hirzel a écrit :
Hello
There is a tutorial for the Pillar document writing system [1]. The Pharo 6 catalog entry shows that the Pillar syntax goes back to the Pier CMS syntax of Lukas Renggli [2].
There is a syntax summary for the Pier CMS
http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax [3]
I assume that most this still applies for Pillar? But I can imagine that there have here been updates / changes / extensions.
I am looking for a Pillar syntax summary ("cheat sheet"). Is this available somewhere?
Kind regards
Hannes
Hi!
For everything before 2015 there is this one:
https://www.cheatography.com/benjaminvanryseghem/cheat-sheets/pillar/
But everything added after 2015 there is none :( Also there was a change of syntax on the links but I don't remember which one. The correct syntax should be in the PDF you referenced in [1].
I'll add an issue to the Pillar repo to create such a sheet but I will not have the time to do it. (At least not now)
[1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
[2] Pharo 6.1 catalog entry for Pillar
Pillar is a wiki-like syntax, its document model, a parser for it, and a set of exporters (e.g., HTML, LaTeX, Markdown...). Pillar is primarily used as the wiki syntax behind the *Pier CMS>http://piercms.com*. Pillar is also being used to write books: e.g., *the Enterprise Pharo book>http://books.pharo.org/*.
The original creator of Pillar (formerly known as ''the syntax behind the Pier CMS'') is Lukas Renggli. Nevertheless, *Damien Cassou>damien.cassou@inria.fr* is now the maintainer. The website is at *http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar*. Issues should be reported to *https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues*
[3] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3700 has some information about Pier. It refers to a Smallwiki mailing list which is active.
https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/
e.g. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2016-November/008051.html with an announcment 'Pier3 with latest Pillar'
-- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr
http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
Found the (incomplete) list on the last slide of http://esug.org/data/ESUG2015/4%20thursday/1600-1630%20Pilar/Pillar.pdf so far. HH On 8/22/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Cyril I imagine that you refer to link ref with *@...* Yes we should probably produce a stylesheet.
Now I'm busy finishing the new lecture.
Since we could not reproduce the Pillar image for Pharo 40 (because of a bug in metacello) luc pushed the Pharo mooc to Pharo 50.
Luc created a makefile producer from the pillar.conf and friday we will do a day with damien on having the new makefile on all the booklets + travis. So that I can have one way to do things for all the project. I want to deprecate all the postBuild.sh creation in all the projects.
But lecture first
Stef
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 22/08/2017 à 09:25, H. Hirzel a écrit :
Hello
There is a tutorial for the Pillar document writing system [1]. The Pharo 6 catalog entry shows that the Pillar syntax goes back to the Pier CMS syntax of Lukas Renggli [2].
There is a syntax summary for the Pier CMS
http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax [3]
I assume that most this still applies for Pillar? But I can imagine that there have here been updates / changes / extensions.
I am looking for a Pillar syntax summary ("cheat sheet"). Is this available somewhere?
Kind regards
Hannes
Hi!
For everything before 2015 there is this one:
https://www.cheatography.com/benjaminvanryseghem/cheat-sheets/pillar/
But everything added after 2015 there is none :( Also there was a change of syntax on the links but I don't remember which one. The correct syntax should be in the PDF you referenced in [1].
I'll add an issue to the Pillar repo to create such a sheet but I will not have the time to do it. (At least not now)
[1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
[2] Pharo 6.1 catalog entry for Pillar
Pillar is a wiki-like syntax, its document model, a parser for it, and a set of exporters (e.g., HTML, LaTeX, Markdown...). Pillar is primarily used as the wiki syntax behind the *Pier CMS>http://piercms.com*. Pillar is also being used to write books: e.g., *the Enterprise Pharo book>http://books.pharo.org/*.
The original creator of Pillar (formerly known as ''the syntax behind the Pier CMS'') is Lukas Renggli. Nevertheless, *Damien Cassou>damien.cassou@inria.fr* is now the maintainer. The website is at *http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar*. Issues should be reported to *https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues*
[3] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3700 has some information about Pier. It refers to a Smallwiki mailing list which is active.
https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/
e.g. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2016-November/008051.html with an announcment 'Pier3 with latest Pillar'
-- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr
http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
How about: http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet Cheers, Alistair On 23 August 2017 at 20:22, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Found the (incomplete) list on the last slide of
http://esug.org/data/ESUG2015/4%20thursday/1600-1630%20Pilar/Pillar.pdf
so far.
HH
On 8/22/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Cyril I imagine that you refer to link ref with *@...* Yes we should probably produce a stylesheet.
Now I'm busy finishing the new lecture.
Since we could not reproduce the Pillar image for Pharo 40 (because of a bug in metacello) luc pushed the Pharo mooc to Pharo 50.
Luc created a makefile producer from the pillar.conf and friday we will do a day with damien on having the new makefile on all the booklets + travis. So that I can have one way to do things for all the project. I want to deprecate all the postBuild.sh creation in all the projects.
But lecture first
Stef
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 22/08/2017 à 09:25, H. Hirzel a écrit :
Hello
There is a tutorial for the Pillar document writing system [1]. The Pharo 6 catalog entry shows that the Pillar syntax goes back to the Pier CMS syntax of Lukas Renggli [2].
There is a syntax summary for the Pier CMS
http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax [3]
I assume that most this still applies for Pillar? But I can imagine that there have here been updates / changes / extensions.
I am looking for a Pillar syntax summary ("cheat sheet"). Is this available somewhere?
Kind regards
Hannes
Hi!
For everything before 2015 there is this one:
https://www.cheatography.com/benjaminvanryseghem/cheat-sheets/pillar/
But everything added after 2015 there is none :( Also there was a change of syntax on the links but I don't remember which one. The correct syntax should be in the PDF you referenced in [1].
I'll add an issue to the Pillar repo to create such a sheet but I will not have the time to do it. (At least not now)
[1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
[2] Pharo 6.1 catalog entry for Pillar
Pillar is a wiki-like syntax, its document model, a parser for it, and a set of exporters (e.g., HTML, LaTeX, Markdown...). Pillar is primarily used as the wiki syntax behind the *Pier CMS>http://piercms.com*. Pillar is also being used to write books: e.g., *the Enterprise Pharo book>http://books.pharo.org/*.
The original creator of Pillar (formerly known as ''the syntax behind the Pier CMS'') is Lukas Renggli. Nevertheless, *Damien Cassou>damien.cassou@inria.fr* is now the maintainer. The website is at *http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar*. Issues should be reported to *https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues*
[3] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3700 has some information about Pier. It refers to a Smallwiki mailing list which is active.
https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/
e.g. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2016-November/008051.html with an announcment 'Pier3 with latest Pillar'
-- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr
http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6. --Hannes On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
On 23 August 2017 at 20:22, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Found the (incomplete) list on the last slide of
http://esug.org/data/ESUG2015/4%20thursday/1600-1630%20Pilar/Pillar.pdf
so far.
HH
On 8/22/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Cyril I imagine that you refer to link ref with *@...* Yes we should probably produce a stylesheet.
Now I'm busy finishing the new lecture.
Since we could not reproduce the Pillar image for Pharo 40 (because of a bug in metacello) luc pushed the Pharo mooc to Pharo 50.
Luc created a makefile producer from the pillar.conf and friday we will do a day with damien on having the new makefile on all the booklets + travis. So that I can have one way to do things for all the project. I want to deprecate all the postBuild.sh creation in all the projects.
But lecture first
Stef
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 22/08/2017 à 09:25, H. Hirzel a écrit :
Hello
There is a tutorial for the Pillar document writing system [1]. The Pharo 6 catalog entry shows that the Pillar syntax goes back to the Pier CMS syntax of Lukas Renggli [2].
There is a syntax summary for the Pier CMS
http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax [3]
I assume that most this still applies for Pillar? But I can imagine that there have here been updates / changes / extensions.
I am looking for a Pillar syntax summary ("cheat sheet"). Is this available somewhere?
Kind regards
Hannes
Hi!
For everything before 2015 there is this one:
https://www.cheatography.com/benjaminvanryseghem/cheat-sheets/pillar/
But everything added after 2015 there is none :( Also there was a change of syntax on the links but I don't remember which one. The correct syntax should be in the PDF you referenced in [1].
I'll add an issue to the Pillar repo to create such a sheet but I will not have the time to do it. (At least not now)
[1] https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
[2] Pharo 6.1 catalog entry for Pillar
Pillar is a wiki-like syntax, its document model, a parser for it, and a set of exporters (e.g., HTML, LaTeX, Markdown...). Pillar is primarily used as the wiki syntax behind the *Pier CMS>http://piercms.com*. Pillar is also being used to write books: e.g., *the Enterprise Pharo book>http://books.pharo.org/*.
The original creator of Pillar (formerly known as ''the syntax behind the Pier CMS'') is Lukas Renggli. Nevertheless, *Damien Cassou>damien.cassou@inria.fr* is now the maintainer. The website is at *http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar*. Issues should be reported to *https://github.com/pillar-markup/pillar/issues*
[3] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3700 has some information about Pier. It refers to a Smallwiki mailing list which is active.
https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/
e.g. https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/2016-November/008051.html with an announcment 'Pier3 with latest Pillar'
-- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr
http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques Prévert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage). Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+ See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing. Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex. I will try to create one a new style sheet. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
Alistair, Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment. Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar. A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser. Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version. The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version. --Hannes On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. migrate other pillar projects to use the same. BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view. On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Alistair,
Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version.
--Hannes
On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports. a) in an example document b) as a list As for Pillar syntax versions: I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?). On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. migrate other pillar projects to use the same.
BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Alistair,
Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version.
--Hannes
On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
the most up to date description is in the web perspective book and not much changed since then. We are picky when it is about the changing the syntax so it nearly did not change. Stef On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports.
a) in an example document b) as a list
As for Pillar syntax versions:
I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?).
On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. migrate other pillar projects to use the same.
BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Alistair,
Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version.
--Hannes
On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
Stephane I went to the Pharo book web site, Enterprise Pharo - a web perspective Enterprise Pharo is the third volume of the series. This link http://files.pharo.org/books/enterprise-pharo/ and clicked on 'Pillar' and for https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu... got HTTP ERROR 404 I think you are currently updating the book and that there are also PDFs. How can I get at a recent version? Integration server? Where? --Hannes On 8/26/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
the most up to date description is in the web perspective book and not much changed since then. We are picky when it is about the changing the syntax so it nearly did not change.
Stef
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports.
a) in an example document b) as a list
As for Pillar syntax versions:
I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?).
On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. migrate other pillar projects to use the same.
BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Alistair,
Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version.
--Hannes
On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
P.S. Important Pillar links I have collected last week https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.md... Includes this one http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet Alistair writes it is fine in Pharo 6 for what he is using it for. In particular I am interested in adding pictures which are within the Pharo image. On 8/28/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephane
I went to the Pharo book web site,
Enterprise Pharo - a web perspective Enterprise Pharo is the third volume of the series.
This link
http://files.pharo.org/books/enterprise-pharo/
and clicked on 'Pillar'
and for
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
got HTTP ERROR 404
I think you are currently updating the book and that there are also PDFs.
How can I get at a recent version? Integration server? Where?
--Hannes
On 8/26/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
the most up to date description is in the web perspective book and not much changed since then. We are picky when it is about the changing the syntax so it nearly did not change.
Stef
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports.
a) in an example document b) as a list
As for Pillar syntax versions:
I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?).
On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. migrate other pillar projects to use the same.
BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Alistair,
Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version.
--Hannes
On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
Found the Pillar chapter of the Pharo enterprise book ("A web perspective") by following the link on the wiki https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.md... then https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu... Then https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu... So the information is somewhat hidden but available and only the link from the Pharo books website is broken..... On 8/28/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
P.S. Important Pillar links I have collected last week
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.md...
Includes this one http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet Alistair writes it is fine in Pharo 6 for what he is using it for.
In particular I am interested in adding pictures which are within the Pharo image.
On 8/28/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephane
I went to the Pharo book web site,
Enterprise Pharo - a web perspective Enterprise Pharo is the third volume of the series.
This link
http://files.pharo.org/books/enterprise-pharo/
and clicked on 'Pillar'
and for
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
got HTTP ERROR 404
I think you are currently updating the book and that there are also PDFs.
How can I get at a recent version? Integration server? Where?
--Hannes
On 8/26/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
the most up to date description is in the web perspective book and not much changed since then. We are picky when it is about the changing the syntax so it nearly did not change.
Stef
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports.
a) in an example document b) as a list
As for Pillar syntax versions:
I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?).
On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. migrate other pillar projects to use the same.
BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Alistair,
Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version.
--Hannes
On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
All the pharo books I produced are in github/SquareBracketAssociates and the pdf are on books.pharo.org Now I made sure that the bintray produces pdf so that people can see the pdf once they edit commit the file On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 1:29 PM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Found the Pillar chapter of the Pharo enterprise book ("A web perspective") by following the link on the wiki
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.md...
then
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
Then https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
So the information is somewhat hidden but available and only the link from the Pharo books website is broken.....
On 8/28/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
P.S. Important Pillar links I have collected last week
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/contents/projects.md...
Includes this one http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet Alistair writes it is fine in Pharo 6 for what he is using it for.
In particular I am interested in adding pictures which are within the Pharo image.
On 8/28/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Stephane
I went to the Pharo book web site,
Enterprise Pharo - a web perspective Enterprise Pharo is the third volume of the series.
This link
http://files.pharo.org/books/enterprise-pharo/
and clicked on 'Pillar'
and for
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessfu...
got HTTP ERROR 404
I think you are currently updating the book and that there are also PDFs.
How can I get at a recent version? Integration server? Where?
--Hannes
On 8/26/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
the most up to date description is in the web perspective book and not much changed since then. We are picky when it is about the changing the syntax so it nearly did not change.
Stef
On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:55 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports.
a) in an example document b) as a list
As for Pillar syntax versions:
I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future. So a version indication is helpful even if it just says that Pharo 6 supports the same Pillar version as it was in Pharo x (x = 2,3,4,5 ?).
On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
Good suggestion. Now I have no time for pillar per se. Now if you do it I will add it to pillar without hesitation. Tomorrow we will use bintray for all the projects to save the pdf (booklet, books). migrate the mooc to the makefile generator developed by luc. make sure that it works for Pillar 50 and 60. migrate other pillar projects to use the same.
BTW we do not really want to have multiple version of the syntax. For example Pillar 50 and 60 are the same from a syntax point of view.
On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel@gmail.com> wrote:
Alistair,
Thank you for the link to the Pillar syntax summary
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
and the confirmation that the constructs there work in Pharo 6 & 7 for basic cases. This is fine for me at the moment.
Stephan D Thanks for being ready to check the full feature support in Pillar.
A suggestion: A new style sheet could come as well together with a test document (with version indication included) for the Pillar parser.
Then it is straightforward to determine if a particular Pillar installation supports a particular Pillar markup version.
The Pillar-Tests-PetitPillar package tests individual features but not all in one go. If we have a test case which tests all features in one go it has a triple function: 1) It is a syntax summary of all features. 2) It serves as a living documentation. 3) It helps to determine if a particular pillar installation in an image supports a particular Pillar version.
--Hannes
On 8/23/17, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self@gmail.com> wrote:
+Handling all the cases: summing a die/die handle with a die/die handle .>file://figures/DieDoubleDispatchFull.pdf|width=70|label=figDieDoubleDispatchFull+
See Figure *@figDieDoubleDispatchFull* for internal ref is missing.
Two Column is missing. I do not know it works in Latex.
I will try to create one a new style sheet.
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 09:11:47PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
Thanks, it is useful. Date is 24 June 2014. Not sure if it is the latest version for what I have now in Pharo 6.
--Hannes
True, but it only covers the basic text mark-up and I don't think that has changed recently. Anyway, I haven't found anything wrong with it in Pharo 6 & 7 (admittedly, with only basic pillar usage).
Cheers, Alistair
On 8/23/17, Alistair Grant <akgrant0710@gmail.com> wrote:
How about:
http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/pillarhub/pillarcheatsheet
Cheers, Alistair
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