Rocket Chat - An open source alternative to Slack
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around) it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo. Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat https://rocket.chat/ The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the 10.000 messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source and most importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can interface with javascript in many diffirent ways . Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies. And even its license is MIT. The reviews I have read about it are very positive. So what do you think ?
Excerpts from Dimitris Chloupis's message of 2015-12-16 11:04:04 +0100:
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around)
it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo.
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat
The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices.
what it doesn't have is support for irc clients: https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1259 for me, that's a deal breaker. because as nice as these services are, i don't have the patience to run a dozen clients for all different communication services. it is bad enough that these services are not federated and i have to connect to them to communicate, but at least support for common, already existing clients, should be there. it does seem to have an irc bridge at least. a bit ugly, but workable. but there is also mattermost: http://mattermost.org/ (and it has irc client support) seems at least as mature as rocket.chat. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin Bähr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/
I think both, rocket.chat and mattermost.org are interesting. Owning vital infrastructure, like the one of communications, is key for proper community empowerment, but the problem is that this is a small community without many spare resources and I don't know if any has the time/infrastructure to volunteer hosting them and making the test. What is a fact is that Slack has changed the way community interacts, mostly for good so exploring and owning alternatives is a valuable pursuit. Cheers, Offray On 16/12/15 07:05, Martin Bähr wrote:
Excerpts from Dimitris Chloupis's message of 2015-12-16 11:04:04 +0100:
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around)
it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo.
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat
The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. what it doesn't have is support for irc clients: https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1259
for me, that's a deal breaker. because as nice as these services are, i don't have the patience to run a dozen clients for all different communication services.
it is bad enough that these services are not federated and i have to connect to them to communicate, but at least support for common, already existing clients, should be there.
it does seem to have an irc bridge at least. a bit ugly, but workable.
but there is also mattermost: http://mattermost.org/ (and it has irc client support) seems at least as mature as rocket.chat.
greetings, martin.
I completely agree with this is why I did not push it further I just brought it to your attention. In any case, I am fine with Slack and I rely mostly on this mailing list anyway. I rather focus on coding for Pharo than worry about a chat system ;) On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 6:51 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray@riseup.net> wrote:
I think both, rocket.chat and mattermost.org are interesting. Owning vital infrastructure, like the one of communications, is key for proper community empowerment, but the problem is that this is a small community without many spare resources and I don't know if any has the time/infrastructure to volunteer hosting them and making the test. What is a fact is that Slack has changed the way community interacts, mostly for good so exploring and owning alternatives is a valuable pursuit.
Cheers,
Offray
On 16/12/15 07:05, Martin Bähr wrote:
Excerpts from Dimitris Chloupis's message of 2015-12-16 11:04:04 +0100:
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around)
it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo.
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat
The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. what it doesn't have is support for irc clients: https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat/issues/1259
for me, that's a deal breaker. because as nice as these services are, i don't have the patience to run a dozen clients for all different communication services.
it is bad enough that these services are not federated and i have to connect to them to communicate, but at least support for common, already existing clients, should be there.
it does seem to have an irc bridge at least. a bit ugly, but workable.
but there is also mattermost: http://mattermost.org/ (and it has irc client support) seems at least as mature as rocket.chat.
greetings, martin.
I set up a public #pharo channel. Join it! Sent from my iPad
On Dec 16, 2015, at 02:04, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around)
it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo.
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat
The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the 10.000 messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source and most importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can interface with javascript in many diffirent ways .
Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies.
And even its license is MIT.
The reviews I have read about it are very positive.
So what do you think ?
Where ? On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 at 08:21, John Pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote:
I set up a public #pharo channel. Join it!
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 16, 2015, at 02:04, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around)
it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo.
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat
The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the 10.000 messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source and most importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can interface with javascript in many diffirent ways .
Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies.
And even its license is MIT.
The reviews I have read about it are very positive.
So what do you think ?
Sorry, I set it up on my laptop. Not an ideal place for a chat system, and my isp doesn't support rocket chat. Sent from my iPad
On Dec 16, 2015, at 23:58, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
Where ?
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 at 08:21, John Pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com> wrote: I set up a public #pharo channel. Join it!
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 16, 2015, at 02:04, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around)
it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo.
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat
The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the 10.000 messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source and most importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can interface with javascript in many diffirent ways .
Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies.
And even its license is MIT.
The reviews I have read about it are very positive.
So what do you think ?
The windows client is a b***h to work with. The channel list is very long and unordered, and there's no search. Craig On 2015/12/17 08:20 AM, John Pfersich wrote:
I set up a public #pharo channel. Join it!
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 16, 2015, at 02:04, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
So since Slack has been so successful for our community , far more that IRC has been in terms of participation and useful discussions (at least the 2 years I have been around)
it made me wonder if I could find an open source alternative to Slack that is at least as good as it if not better without a very different workflow (so we have to learn everything from zero) all the big pros and something that could easily interface with Pharo.
Ladies and gentlemen meet Rocket Chat
The good news about Rocket chat is that it seems to have all the pros of Slack like close integration with tweeter, github etc etc . It has clients for all OS and mobile devices. But not the big cons like the 10.000 messages limit ( which we have long exceeded). Its open source and most importantly written in javascript and we know that pharo can interface with javascript in many diffirent ways .
Hosted on Github and deployable with open source technologies.
And even its license is MIT.
The reviews I have read about it are very positive.
So what do you think ?
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Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas