Hi, I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that? Johan
Johan Brichau wrote:
Hi,
I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that?
Johan
What version of Pharo? What version of OSX? What fonts? I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise). * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps are sub-pixel anti-aliased. * Sub-pixel anti-aliases * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe otherwise problem. Try... * Choosing a TrueType font * Changing some OSX display settings * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina... * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting-crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-sw... * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina... Please report your results. cheers -ben
Hi, This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs with any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not sure what is needed to be done, though. Cheers, Doru On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
Johan Brichau wrote:
Hi,
I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that?
Johan
What version of Pharo? What version of OSX? What fonts?
I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise). * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps are sub-pixel anti-aliased. * Sub-pixel anti-aliases * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe otherwise problem.
Try... * Choosing a TrueType font * Changing some OSX display settings * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/ 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting- crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/ 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
Please report your results. cheers -ben
-- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"
on retina, the display bitmap are 2x scaled. On 4 September 2014 09:56, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs with any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not sure what is needed to be done, though.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
Johan Brichau wrote:
Hi,
I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that?
Johan
What version of Pharo? What version of OSX? What fonts?
I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise). * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps are sub-pixel anti-aliased. * Sub-pixel anti-aliases * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe otherwise problem.
Try... * Choosing a TrueType font * Changing some OSX display settings * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/ 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting- crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/ 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
Please report your results. cheers -ben
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
i'm wrong.. it scales only on ipads.. not on OS X. On 4 September 2014 11:09, Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> wrote:
on retina, the display bitmap are 2x scaled.
On 4 September 2014 09:56, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs with any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not sure what is needed to be done, though.
Cheers, Doru
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Ben Coman <btc@openinworld.com> wrote:
Johan Brichau wrote:
Hi,
I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that?
Johan
What version of Pharo? What version of OSX? What fonts?
I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise). * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps are sub-pixel anti-aliased. * Sub-pixel anti-aliases * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe otherwise problem.
Try... * Choosing a TrueType font * Changing some OSX display settings * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/ 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting- crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-switching-from-windows * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/ 8277/how-does-apples-retina-display-affect-sub-pixel-rendering
Please report your results. cheers -ben
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"Every thing has its own flow"
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
Hi again,
This should be a known issue as it was raised before. The problem occurs with any font. It has to do with the VM as far as I understood. I am not sure what is needed to be done, though.
I know this was raised when the retina display came out but I did not follow any development since I was not using one. Now, I thought it had been fixed because, surely, I must not be the only one using a retina macbook with Pharo? Anyway, I can understand if this is a known issue but is it well understood what should be done?
What version of Pharo? 30856
What version of OSX? 10.9.4
What fonts? Any font that I can select in Pharo actually.
thanks for the links below. I will try and report results. Johan
I'm not sure of these details, but it will give you some things to think about and try (and someone can correct me otherwise). * Pharo's default font is still a bitmap StikeFont. * StrikeFont bitmaps are sub-pixel anti-aliased. * Sub-pixel anti-aliases * Retina display sometimes have sub-pixel rendering turned off, or maybe otherwise problem.
Try... * Choosing a TrueType font * Changing some OSX display settings * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina... * http://superuser.com/questions/457153/getting-crisper-fonts-in-os-x-after-sw... * http://www.macworld.com/article/1145157/smoothsnow.html * http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/8277/how-does-apples-retina...
Please report your results.
I have the same problem with a Lenovo Yoga2 13 (Win 8.1) with a QHD+ Display. It has 3200x1800 px. BW, Volkert Am 04.09.2014 um 07:46 schrieb Johan Brichau:
Hi,
I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that?
Johan
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Johan Brichau wrote:
Hi,
I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that?
Johan
Oh! I just found the real cause of your problem. It turtles all the way down... http://xkcd.com/1416/
On 04/09/14 07:46, Johan Brichau wrote:
Hi,
I just started using a Macbook pro with retina display. I notice the fonts are quite blurry. Is there something one can do to improve that?
Johan Hi,
I use a Macbook pro with retina. Some time ago I found that you can run Pharo in "Low resolution mode". You can try that by right-clicking on the virtual machine application, selecting "Get Info" and checking "Open in low resolution". See if that improves the situation for you until the problem is addressed on a higher level. Tommaso
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