setting up nautilus on 1.4
Hi all, I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur. I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4. As has been discussed, the default browser doesn't have any refactoring support, so I tried to install Nautilus, following Mariano Peck's blog post of 2012-02-26. (This was actually my first use of Gofer.) It seems to work, but I can't bring up the browser menu with Command-click any more. Did the standard "action click" change somewhere, or is this just an idiosyncrasy of Nautilus? I do most of my work with a MacBook, so I only have one mouse button. If I do the "two finger click", I can can bring up the menu, but that's awkward. Is there a setting somewhere that I can use to bring back command-click? Control-click is the more standard modified-click on the Mac, but that seems to be used by some morphic menu. Basically, since I'm pretty new, I don't know whether this change in behavior is expected or whether it's due to a mistake of my own. Is there a Nautilus list I could ask this on? Is there a different browser that I should try? (I just want method renaming, no "fancy" refactorings.) Regards, Johann
Hello Johan, Welcome ! I hope you'll enjoy Pharo as much as we do. On 23 Apr 2012, at 15:07, Johann Hibschman wrote:
Hi all,
I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur.
I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4. As has been discussed, the default browser doesn't have any refactoring support, so I tried to install Nautilus, following Mariano Peck's blog post of 2012-02-26. (This was actually my first use of Gofer.)
It seems to work, but I can't bring up the browser menu with Command-click any more. Did the standard "action click" change somewhere, or is this just an idiosyncrasy of Nautilus? I do most of my work with a MacBook, so I only have one mouse button. If I do the "two finger click", I can can bring up the menu, but that's awkward. Is there a setting somewhere that I can use to bring back command-click? Control-click is the more standard modified-click on the Mac, but that seems to be used by some morphic menu.
Basically, since I'm pretty new, I don't know whether this change in behavior is expected or whether it's due to a mistake of my own. Is there a Nautilus list I could ask this on? Is there a different browser that I should try? (I just want method renaming, no "fancy" refactorings.)
Regards,
Johann
Yes, you are right: In Nautilus' Browser, control-click brings up a Morph related menu, as everywhere else in Pharo 1.4. In the browser's top lists, command-click does not seem to work. In the browser's code pane, command-click works if you are not on a method name or class, because then you open a new browser on that symbol. I personally like the two-finger click on the trackpad for menus. I cc'ed the dev list (which has more traffic), so Benjamin (Nautilus' author) can comment. Regards, Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill
On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote:
Hi all,
I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur.
Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^
I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4. As has been discussed, the default browser doesn't have any refactoring support, so I tried to install Nautilus, following Mariano Peck's blog post of 2012-02-26. (This was actually my first use of Gofer.)
It seems to work, but I can't bring up the browser menu with Command-click any more. Did the standard "action click" change somewhere, or is this just an idiosyncrasy of Nautilus? I do most of my work with a MacBook, so I only have one mouse button. If I do the "two finger click", I can can bring up the menu, but that's awkward. Is there a setting somewhere that I can use to bring back command-click? Control-click is the more standard modified-click on the Mac, but that seems to be used by some morphic menu.
It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) I have open a bug entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 And proposed a fix :)
Basically, since I'm pretty new, I don't know whether this change in behavior is expected or whether it's due to a mistake of my own. Is there a Nautilus list I could ask this on? Is there a different browser that I should try? (I just want method renaming, no "fancy" refactorings.)
It comes form the list widget itself, not Nautilus :) Thanks for your feedback, Ben
Regards,
Johann
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^
Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind.
It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) I have open a bug entry:Â http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 And proposed a fix :)
Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a euphemism for some rude gesture.)
From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's where I should be pulling in updates to other packages.
Regards, Johann
You can either download a new image from Jenkins (my choice if there is more than 3-4 version to load) or you can click on World -> System -> Software update (and take a coffee break ^^) Ben On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^
Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind.
It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) I have open a bug entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 And proposed a fix :)
Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a euphemism for some rude gesture.)
From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's where I should be pulling in updates to other packages.
Regards, Johann
Ben do you have a version for 1.4 and 2.0? because 2.0 will get wild :). Stef On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Benjamin wrote:
You can either download a new image from Jenkins (my choice if there is more than 3-4 version to load) or you can click on World -> System -> Software update (and take a coffee break ^^)
Ben
On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^
Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind.
It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) I have open a bug entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 And proposed a fix :)
Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a euphemism for some rude gesture.)
From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's where I should be pulling in updates to other packages.
Regards, Johann
I still have my build for 1.4 :) I think I will fork the build (and configuration) soon ;) Ben On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Ben do you have a version for 1.4 and 2.0? because 2.0 will get wild :).
Stef
On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Benjamin wrote:
You can either download a new image from Jenkins (my choice if there is more than 3-4 version to load) or you can click on World -> System -> Software update (and take a coffee break ^^)
Ben
On Apr 23, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com> wrote:
Welcome :) I hope you will have fun here with us ^^
Well, so far I'm having fun. It's a nice break from the daily grind.
It used to be a bug. But it also seems it reappears :) I have open a bug entry: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5666 And proposed a fix :)
Thanks, that was quick. For now, I can try to get used to the two-finger-click, or just move from the couch to the table where I can plug in my mouse. The two-finger click isn't bad, but I'm not accustomed to it, and it came as a surprise, since I'd been cmd-clicking everything else in Pharo. (Also, it sounds like a euphemism for some rude gesture.)
From a practical point of view, if there is a change, would it appear in the main Pharo development image, or somewhere else? I'm a little uncertain what the right way to stay up-to-date is. So far, I've only used Monticello as a local RCS for my own code, but presumably that's where I should be pulling in updates to other packages.
Regards, Johann
On Apr 23, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Johann Hibschman wrote:
Hi all,
I just joined this list for real, although I've been following the RSS feed for a month now. In short, I'm a rank amateur.
Welcome :)
I just tried upgrading to Pharo 1.4. As has been discussed, the default browser doesn't have any refactoring support, so I tried to install Nautilus, following Mariano Peck's blog post of 2012-02-26. (This was actually my first use of Gofer.)
You can also download nautilus image from the jenkins server. Now I do not know if there is a version for 1.4
It seems to work, but I can't bring up the browser menu with Command-click any more. Did the standard "action click" change somewhere, or is this just an idiosyncrasy of Nautilus? I do most of my work with a MacBook, so I only have one mouse button. If I do the "two finger click", I can can bring up the menu, but that's awkward. Is there a setting somewhere that I can use to bring back command-click? Control-click is the more standard modified-click on the Mac, but that seems to be used by some morphic menu.
Basically, since I'm pretty new, I don't know whether this change in behavior is expected or whether it's due to a mistake of my own. Is there a Nautilus list I could ask this on? Is there a different browser that I should try? (I just want method renaming, no "fancy" refactorings.)
Regards,
Johann
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