simple Pharo 1.4 question
Hi, how can i tab for example through the parts of the systembrowser to get at the buttons? which key do i have to use? werner
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Werner Kassens <wkassens@libello.com> wrote:
Hi, how can i tab for example through the parts of the systembrowser to get at the buttons? which key do i have to use?
Hi. The default browser of Pharo 1.4 is very basic. Or I don't know the shortcuts or directly it is not supported. Anyway, I recommend you to install another browser, like Nautilus. http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-syste... Cheers -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Hi Mariano, actually i do have nautilus installed, my question is, well, more about whether pharo is now becoming unusable without mouse by design or just accidently or whether i overlook something. werner Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit :
Hi. The default browser of Pharo 1.4 is very basic. Or I don't know the shortcuts or directly it is not supported. Anyway, I recommend you to install another browser, like Nautilus. http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-syste...
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Werner Kassens <wkassens@libello.com>wrote:
Hi Mariano, actually i do have nautilus installed, my question is, well, more about whether pharo is now becoming unusable without mouse by design or just accidently or whether i overlook something.
Hi. No, it is the other way arround. We now have much better shortcuts, and even keymamppings: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/why-keymapping-rocks/ The thing is that nobody expects that people use the default browser of Pharo 1.4. So yes, THAT browser may be ugly regarding keyboard. But take a look to Nautilus. Open Nautilus, click on the right upper key -> "shortcuts description". Then you can pick up a group and see the shortcuts. See the attached screenshot. In addition, to move between panes in Nautilus just use the arrows (left and right). Cheers
werner
Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit :
Hi. The default browser of Pharo 1.4 is very basic. Or I don't know the
shortcuts or directly it is not supported. Anyway, I recommend you to install another browser, like Nautilus. http://marianopeck.wordpress.**com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-** reborn-of-the-systembrowser/<http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-syste...>
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Thanks Mariano :) BTW, it clearly misses some "gloabal" shortcuts for switching hierarchy or not, groups/package etc :) It's on my to do list ^^ Ben On May 5, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Werner Kassens <wkassens@libello.com> wrote: Hi Mariano, actually i do have nautilus installed, my question is, well, more about whether pharo is now becoming unusable without mouse by design or just accidently or whether i overlook something.
Hi. No, it is the other way arround. We now have much better shortcuts, and even keymamppings: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/why-keymapping-rocks/ The thing is that nobody expects that people use the default browser of Pharo 1.4. So yes, THAT browser may be ugly regarding keyboard. But take a look to Nautilus.
Open Nautilus, click on the right upper key -> "shortcuts description". Then you can pick up a group and see the shortcuts. See the attached screenshot.
In addition, to move between panes in Nautilus just use the arrows (left and right).
Cheers
werner
Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit :
Hi. The default browser of Pharo 1.4 is very basic. Or I don't know the shortcuts or directly it is not supported. Anyway, I recommend you to install another browser, like Nautilus. http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-syste...
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
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On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Benjamin < benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Mariano :)
BTW, it clearly misses some "gloabal" shortcuts for switching hierarchy or not,
Indeed! I miss the swtith and come back from hierachy ;)
groups/package etc :)
It's on my to do list ^^
Ben
On May 5, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Werner Kassens <wkassens@libello.com>wrote:
Hi Mariano, actually i do have nautilus installed, my question is, well, more about whether pharo is now becoming unusable without mouse by design or just accidently or whether i overlook something.
Hi. No, it is the other way arround. We now have much better shortcuts, and even keymamppings: http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/why-keymapping-rocks/ The thing is that nobody expects that people use the default browser of Pharo 1.4. So yes, THAT browser may be ugly regarding keyboard. But take a look to Nautilus.
Open Nautilus, click on the right upper key -> "shortcuts description". Then you can pick up a group and see the shortcuts. See the attached screenshot.
In addition, to move between panes in Nautilus just use the arrows (left and right).
Cheers
werner
Mariano Martinez Peck a écrit :
Hi. The default browser of Pharo 1.4 is very basic. Or I don't know the
shortcuts or directly it is not supported. Anyway, I recommend you to install another browser, like Nautilus. http://marianopeck.wordpress.**com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-** reborn-of-the-systembrowser/<http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/nautilus-the-reborn-of-the-syste...>
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
<Screen shot 2012-05-05 at 10.39.24 PM.png><Screen shot 2012-05-05 at 10.39.39 PM.png>
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Mariano, i see. and your keymapping essay makes sense for me and is interesting (nevertheless i dont understand <g> why throwing away a very common and simple method, that everybody knows, like tabbing through the morphs is necessary). thanks for your answer. werner
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Werner Kassens <wkassens@libello.com>wrote:
Mariano, i see. and your keymapping essay makes sense for me and is interesting (nevertheless i dont understand <g> why throwing away a very common and simple method, that everybody knows, like tabbing through the morphs is necessary).
+1. Probably it was not on purpose. Probably it may have been lost (it was working before?) and since nobody reported it....
thanks for your answer. werner
-- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
Doing is accepting doing mistakes and learning from them. We are not aiming for the glacial perfection, just improving steadily. Stef the wise
Mariano, i see. and your keymapping essay makes sense for me and is interesting (nevertheless i dont understand <g> why throwing away a very common and simple method, that everybody knows, like tabbing through the morphs is necessary). thanks for your answer. werner
Hi Stéphane,
Doing is accepting doing mistakes and learning from them.
i know and occassionally i want to learn something too and then i accept <g> posing a stupid question in a 'A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome'. often i get a helpful and occasionally thought-provoking answer and i guess that's what this place is good for too. werner
On May 6, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Werner Kassens wrote:
Hi Stéphane,
Doing is accepting doing mistakes and learning from them.
i know and occassionally i want to learn something too and then i accept <g> posing a stupid question in a 'A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome'. often i get a helpful and occasionally thought-provoking answer and i guess that's what this place is good for too.
Yes but I wanted to say that this is important to accept mistake. Our goal is to have a browser that can be used without a mouse but be better than the previous one so we are getting there.
werner
On 6 May 2012 12:49, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Doing is accepting doing mistakes and learning from them.
We are not aiming for the glacial perfection, just improving steadily.
Stef the wise
nice subscript :)
Mariano, i see. and your keymapping essay makes sense for me and is interesting (nevertheless i dont understand <g> why throwing away a very common and simple method, that everybody knows, like tabbing through the morphs is necessary). thanks for your answer. werner
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
Aye! ..there was this company in Belfast, on the seaside.st that strived for glacial perfection of titanic proportions :o) nothing is perfect greetings TedvG On 06.05.2012 17:25, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 6 May 2012 12:49, Stéphane Ducasse<stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Doing is accepting doing mistakes and learning from them.
We are not aiming for the glacial perfection, just improving steadily.
Stef the wise nice subscript :)
Mariano, i see. and your keymapping essay makes sense for me and is interesting (nevertheless i dont understand<g> why throwing away a very common and simple method, that everybody knows, like tabbing through the morphs is necessary). thanks for your answer. werner
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