I started to flag some issues wth springChile. And we will probably do another pass for the sprint the 8th stef On Jan 26, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote:

good :) maybe I have time to do a pass on the tracker...

On 2013-01-26, at 13:30, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:

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Hi guys

We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building) http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl

We should have a list of issue to fix :) I will check the issues in the bug tracker but any help, wishes from this sprint is welcome.

Stef

I guess starting around 9h30 On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

Stéphane Ducasse wrote

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We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building) http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl

What time is the sprint tomorrow? I want to join virtually from NYC...

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Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to port it to Pharo :-/ ) On 29 January 2013 04:18, Sean P. DeNigris <sean@clipperadams.com> wrote:

Stéphane Ducasse wrote

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I guess starting around 9h30

Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730 in NY time)...

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So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it? or.. OpenCobalt is MIT.. On 29 January 2013 06:12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:40 AM, Peter H. Meadows < peter.h.meadows@googlemail.com> wrote:

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Maybe we should use OpenQwaq for virtual sprints! (But first we have to port it to Pharo :-/

It's GPL.

Marcus

But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work). But anyway. Wouldn't it be really cool to do virtual Pharo code sprints in OpenCobalt or qwaq ? Has anyone tried OC or OQ for pair programming? On 29 January 2013 06:52, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2013, at 7:21 AM, "Peter H. Meadows" < peter.h.meadows@googlemail.com> wrote:

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So? That doesn't mean we can't run it in Pharo, does it?

GPL is very complicated in Smalltalk. As soon as you distribute the image, the viral part kicks in.

It's even a question if this means that the MIT parts then magically have to be GPL, too (which they can not). I think the FSF counts MIT as compatible in the sense that you can mix code bases without having to make the MIT code GPL, but of course the more strong one is the only one that matters when the overall system is distributed together.

It is hard to find a reason why anyone would invest into a code base like that (other than the company that has the copyright so for them, they can use another license when distributing).

Even the FSF uses a less strict license for code that people are supposed to link to, a Linux where every program would be forced to be GPL would never have been successful.

You can't build a platform like this.

Marcus

I would. It would be a nice thing for the community to have. (Plus I'm an anarchist so I don't care what the law says. I only care about behaving in an ethical way. But this isn't the list for philosophy :-) But I think porting OQ is beyond my skill level at the moment :( I suppose people who think only MIT code is worth spending time on could port OpenCobalt to Pharo.. that would be nice... On 29 January 2013 07:17, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:

On Jan 29, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Peter H. Meadows < peter.h.meadows@googlemail.com> wrote:

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But isn't squeak MIT license now? And OpenQwaq uses squeak. So I don't see why we couldn't in theory port it to Pharo (not that anyone is going to any time soon; I'm told it would be a lot of work).

But who would invest his life into this is the resulting code base is GPL and can't server as the foundation to build my/our/the future?

Marcus

We were fighting a daemon - with a lot of dark implication. The fact that we cannot load certain package two times in a row with gofer. It looks stupid but it spotted several bugs. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7284 Stef On Jan 29, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

Sean P. DeNigris wrote

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Stéphane Ducasse wrote

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I guess starting around 9h30 Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730 in NY time)...

Have you guys started yet? I'm on the pharo IRC channel and can Skype if necessary...

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sean I'm online on skype stducasse I'm looking at your fixes. On Jan 29, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

Stéphane Ducasse wrote

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I guess starting around 9h30

Great, I want to play. I'll be online and available via Skype/phone/IRC/smoke-signals/whatever bright and early (I think that's 0730 in NY time)...

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