Pharo Docs website broken
Hello, It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable. http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K... <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...> I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing... Who can fix that?
Dear David, yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool. Regards, On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part. But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page. As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
On my iPad the docs look like this: It's an unusable mess. Sent from my iPad
On Jan 10, 2016, at 15:47, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
I opened a fogbugz issue 17348 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17348/Enhance-shortcut-learnability> remove pharo documentation link 2016-01-11 2:37 GMT+01:00 John Pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com>:
On my iPad the docs look like this:
It's an unusable mess.
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 10, 2016, at 15:47, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why
that
was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Thanks. Doru
On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
I opened a fogbugz issue 17348 remove pharo documentation link
2016-01-11 2:37 GMT+01:00 John Pfersich <jpfersich@gmail.com>: On my iPad the docs look like this:
It's an unusable mess.
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 10, 2016, at 15:47, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge."
I agree with you only 100% + 1. Also note that UPBE is not promoted even though its the most begineer friendly documentation we have, instead you have to navigate through the links to get there. AFAIK the documentation page could use some love, promoting our main Book, UPBE, Pharo for the Enterprise , Deep Into Pharo. Those 3 are essential reading for anyone coming to pharo and they are in a pretty good state , though WIP. I have to say that I never liked Pharo docs because it shows how few classes contain comments and it definitely does not look good for someone looking to enter pharo. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:48 AM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why
that
was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
On 11 Jan 2016, at 10:24, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with you only 100% + 1.
Also note that UPBE is not promoted even though its the most begineer friendly documentation we have, instead you have to navigate through the links to get there.
There is books.pharo.org PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general. Please push this, this is really important.
AFAIK the documentation page could use some love, promoting our main Book, UPBE, Pharo for the Enterprise , Deep Into Pharo. Those 3 are essential reading for anyone coming to pharo and they are in a pretty good state , though WIP.
I have to say that I never liked Pharo docs because it shows how few classes contain comments and it definitely does not look good for someone looking to enter pharo.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:48 AM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
I think that UPBE is in definitely a better state than PBE. We should switch the link. @Dimitris: Could you open an issue for this? Doru
On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 11 Jan 2016, at 10:24, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with you only 100% + 1.
Also note that UPBE is not promoted even though its the most begineer friendly documentation we have, instead you have to navigate through the links to get there.
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
AFAIK the documentation page could use some love, promoting our main Book, UPBE, Pharo for the Enterprise , Deep Into Pharo. Those 3 are essential reading for anyone coming to pharo and they are in a pretty good state , though WIP.
I have to say that I never liked Pharo docs because it shows how few classes contain comments and it definitely does not look good for someone looking to enter pharo.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:48 AM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "To utilize feedback, you first have to acquire it."
Done https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17371/No-direct-link-to-the-UPBE-pdf On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 11:45 AM Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I think that UPBE is in definitely a better state than PBE. We should switch the link.
@Dimitris: Could you open an issue for this?
Doru
On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 11 Jan 2016, at 10:24, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with you only 100% + 1.
Also note that UPBE is not promoted even though its the most begineer friendly documentation we have, instead you have to navigate through the links to get there.
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
AFAIK the documentation page could use some love, promoting our main Book, UPBE, Pharo for the Enterprise , Deep Into Pharo. Those 3 are essential reading for anyone coming to pharo and they are in a pretty good state , though WIP.
I have to say that I never liked Pharo docs because it shows how few classes contain comments and it definitely does not look good for someone looking to enter pharo.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:48 AM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee,
that's
confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"To utilize feedback, you first have to acquire it."
We should keep PBE and add another link. Stef Le 11/1/16 10:45, Tudor Girba a écrit :
I think that UPBE is in definitely a better state than PBE. We should switch the link.
@Dimitris: Could you open an issue for this?
Doru
On Jan 11, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
On 11 Jan 2016, at 10:24, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree with you only 100% + 1.
Also note that UPBE is not promoted even though its the most begineer friendly documentation we have, instead you have to navigate through the links to get there. There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
AFAIK the documentation page could use some love, promoting our main Book, UPBE, Pharo for the Enterprise , Deep Into Pharo. Those 3 are essential reading for anyone coming to pharo and they are in a pretty good state , though WIP.
I have to say that I never liked Pharo docs because it shows how few classes contain comments and it definitely does not look good for someone looking to enter pharo.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 1:48 AM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: I could argue about how I agree with you, but only in part.
But the simple fact is this: the documentation is advertised in large letter on this page: http://pharo.org/documentation
If it's broken, it should be fixed. If the people with the technical access to fix it do not care, it should be removed from such a highly visible page.
As it is, it is confusing for new users, who need it most, and reflects badly on the state of Pharo in general.
On 10 Jan 2016, at 22:25, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear David,
yes this maybe broken, but most of the time, a Pharo developer will never have a look to such a static documentation. You can browse the class and the related methods very easily inside the Pharo image, without relying on an external tool.
Regards,
On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:08 PM, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Hello,
It seems the pharodocs website is broken. Pages for classes are rendered, but the documentation does not display the messages, only their docstrings. That makes it quite unusable.
http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html&classList=package/K...
I remember I looked at it once when I started and thought "whee, that's confusing, I'll play around and come back later". Now I understand why that was confusing...
Who can fix that?
-- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
-- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com
"To utilize feedback, you first have to acquire it."
Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should
**definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources. I will need to put an issue in my TODO :( Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/>
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/>
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ? For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text " Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a backspace. Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored. Just for ANSI Compliance Added the rest of them! Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a carriage return. Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35. Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing enter. Answer the ASCII ESC character The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1 Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril < cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should
**definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ?
for me, works (on Safari)
For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text
" Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a backspace.
<>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored.
<>Just for ANSI Compliance
<> <>Added the rest of them!
<>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a carriage return.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing enter.
<>Answer the ASCII ESC character
<>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1
<> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
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On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/>
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/>
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
if i click on a class, displays nothing i have to also click on the method so i assume this is broken on firefox On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:14 PM Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ?
for me, works (on Safari)
For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text
"
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a backspace.
Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored.
Just for ANSI Compliance
Added the rest of them!
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a carriage return.
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35.
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing enter.
Answer the ASCII ESC character
The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1
Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
<Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril < cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should
**definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:12, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>: well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ?
for me, works (on Safari)
No, apart from the ugly layout at the top (hierarchy mixed with class comment), the main problem is that the method (selector) names are missing at the lower part, which is very confusing. All probably CSS glitches. Where is the project located that generates the web docs ? The problems are browser independent.
For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text
" Answer the Character representing a backspace.
Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored.
Just for ANSI Compliance
Added the rest of them!
Answer the Character representing a carriage return.
Answer the Character whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35.
Answer the Character representing enter.
Answer the ASCII ESC character
The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1
Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
<Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote: Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place. Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names. Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ? For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text
" Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a backspace.
<>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored.
<>Just for ANSI Compliance
<> <>Added the rest of them!
<>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a carriage return.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing enter.
<>Answer the ASCII ESC character
<>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1
<> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
<Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/>
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/>
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
yeah⦠something is bad, but it shouldnât :) pharodocs are statically generated when we release (it takes some time to build it). That could mean is broken since some months (and just now we realised :( ) but well, as I say⦠I will check it⦠eventually :) Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:18, David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place.
Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names.
<PastedGraphic-1.png>
Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
<PastedGraphic-2.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ? For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text
" Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a backspace.
<>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored.
<>Just for ANSI Compliance
<> <>Added the rest of them!
<>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a carriage return.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing enter.
<>Answer the ASCII ESC character
<>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1
<> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
<Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/>
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/>
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place.
Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names.
[image: PastedGraphic-1.png]
Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
[image: PastedGraphic-2.png]
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com>:
well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ? For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text
"
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a backspace.
Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored.
Just for ANSI Compliance
Added the rest of them!
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a carriage return.
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35.
Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing enter.
Answer the ASCII ESC character
The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1
Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
<Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril < cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> wrote:
Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should
**definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France
I never used Pharodoc, I donât really see the point. And apparently I am not alone. So, I have a provocative question: why donât you just remove it? It is broken now and it will take energy to fix, and this energy can be much better spent elsewhere. Plus it will take maintenance time and energy at some point in the future, it is probable that it will break again at some point, since the www behaves like this. Just get rid of this burden.
On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:28, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david@allouche.net <mailto:david@allouche.net>> wrote: Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place.
Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names.
<PastedGraphic-1.png>
Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
<PastedGraphic-2.png>
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The point is visibility towards web users and robots. It also contains quite a bit of technology, it would be a shame to lose it. But yes, of course, real Pharo programmers will never use it, in-image browsing is so much better. Maybe a more down to earth, simpler version would be better.
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:37, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
I never used Pharodoc, I donât really see the point. And apparently I am not alone. So, I have a provocative question: why donât you just remove it?
It is broken now and it will take energy to fix, and this energy can be much better spent elsewhere. Plus it will take maintenance time and energy at some point in the future, it is probable that it will break again at some point, since the www behaves like this. Just get rid of this burden.
On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:28, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote: Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place.
Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names.
<PastedGraphic-1.png>
Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
<PastedGraphic-2.png>
---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <---
Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
well⦠maintenance is (usually) just run the generation process. Some months ago Guille made a simplified version and I was thinking on just load it and execute it⦠they go to sleep :) the reasons for pharodocs to be there are not so important and nothing will change a lot if removed. But I would keep it anyway, if possible. Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:37, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
I never used Pharodoc, I donât really see the point. And apparently I am not alone. So, I have a provocative question: why donât you just remove it?
It is broken now and it will take energy to fix, and this energy can be much better spent elsewhere. Plus it will take maintenance time and energy at some point in the future, it is probable that it will break again at some point, since the www behaves like this. Just get rid of this burden.
On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:28, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david@allouche.net <mailto:david@allouche.net>> wrote: Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place.
Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names.
<PastedGraphic-1.png>
Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
<PastedGraphic-2.png>
---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <http://emailcharter.org/> <---
Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry <http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry> PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
I was wondering if github interface could help here to make it much more powerful On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:43 PM Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well⦠maintenance is (usually) just run the generation process. Some months ago Guille made a simplified version and I was thinking on just load it and execute it⦠they go to sleep :)
the reasons for pharodocs to be there are not so important and nothing will change a lot if removed. But I would keep it anyway, if possible.
Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:37, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
I never used Pharodoc, I donât really see the point. And apparently I am not alone. So, I have a provocative question: why donât you just remove it?
It is broken now and it will take energy to fix, and this energy can be much better spent elsewhere. Plus it will take maintenance time and energy at some point in the future, it is probable that it will break again at some point, since the www behaves like this. Just get rid of this burden.
On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:28, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david@allouche.net> wrote:
Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place.
Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names.
<PastedGraphic-1.png>
Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
<PastedGraphic-2.png>
---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <---
Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
I better understand the reason for existence of pharodocs, thanks! I also understand that you want to keep it. BUT: please keep in mind that having bad documentation is actually worse than not having any documentation at all. So ideally you would regenerate the site tonight before you go to sleep. :-)
On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:41, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well⦠maintenance is (usually) just run the generation process. Some months ago Guille made a simplified version and I was thinking on just load it and execute it⦠they go to sleep :)
the reasons for pharodocs to be there are not so important and nothing will change a lot if removed. But I would keep it anyway, if possible.
Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:37, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl <mailto:jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl>> wrote:
I never used Pharodoc, I donât really see the point. And apparently I am not alone. So, I have a provocative question: why donât you just remove it?
It is broken now and it will take energy to fix, and this energy can be much better spent elsewhere. Plus it will take maintenance time and energy at some point in the future, it is probable that it will break again at some point, since the www behaves like this. Just get rid of this burden.
---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
Personally I would prefer if Esteban kept working on documenting the new FFI. Thats a top priority doc wise, the rest can wait. ΣÏÎ¹Ï ÎÎµÏ , 11 Îαν 2016 - 15:57 ο ÏÏήÏÏÎ·Ï Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> ÎγÏαÏε:
I better understand the reason for existence of pharodocs, thanks! I also understand that you want to keep it.
BUT: please keep in mind that having bad documentation is actually worse than not having any documentation at all. So ideally you would regenerate the site tonight before you go to sleep. :-)
On Jan 11, 2016, at 10:41, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
well⦠maintenance is (usually) just run the generation process. Some months ago Guille made a simplified version and I was thinking on just load it and execute it⦠they go to sleep :)
the reasons for pharodocs to be there are not so important and nothing will change a lot if removed. But I would keep it anyway, if possible.
Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:37, Johan Fabry <jfabry@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
I never used Pharodoc, I donât really see the point. And apparently I am not alone. So, I have a provocative question: why donât you just remove it?
It is broken now and it will take energy to fix, and this energy can be much better spent elsewhere. Plus it will take maintenance time and energy at some point in the future, it is probable that it will break again at some point, since the www behaves like this. Just get rid of this burden.
---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <---
Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD and RyCh labs - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile
main purposes of pharodocs were: 1) make pharo code to appear in the indexes 2) make newcomers (who are used to javadocs and lots of stuff we do not need) feel more confortable, until they realise is actually not needed :P Esteban
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:28, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com> wrote:
yeah i can confirm that as well, but i never tried to resize the panels before, but frankly its not a huge deal, phardoc does not offer anything more than what the pharo image already offers and is many times less flexible. I used only once when i was on vacations and wanted to take a look at a couple of things.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 PM David Allouche <david@allouche.net <mailto:david@allouche.net>> wrote: Yes, that's what I talked about in the first place.
Here's the screenshot I should have included at first. See, no method names.
<PastedGraphic-1.png>
Also, if one tries resizing the panes, things start breaking in visually interesting waysâ¦
<PastedGraphic-2.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:09, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2016-01-11 13:54 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: well, pharodocs look fine for me⦠but can be broken in other sources.
What happens if you click on one link ? For example, if I click on the arrowDown method link, it scrolls to this text
" Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a backspace.
<>Answer the class variable in which unique Characters are stored.
<>Just for ANSI Compliance
<> <>Added the rest of them!
<>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing a carriage return.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> whose digit value is x. For example, answer $9 for x=9, $0 for x=0, $A for x=10, $Z for x=35.
<> <>Answer the Character <http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/class/class/Character.html/class/Character.ht...> representing enter.
<>Answer the ASCII ESC character
<>The Euro currency sign, that E with two dashes. The code point is a official unicode ISO/IEC-10646-1
<> <> <> <>Create the table of DigitsValues."
I will need to put an issue in my TODO :(
Esteban
<Screen Shot 2016-01-11 at 13.54.06.png>
On 11 Jan 2016, at 11:36, Dimitris Chloupis <kilon.alios@gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote:
All manual are being updated and I plan to also release static versions for each pharo release. We made great progress this year with the help of many contributors, we managed to port the entire PBE from latex to pillar and update many chapters to version 4, I have now started the porting to Pharo 5 and will be going through all chapters and updating them as needed and by the end of this year it should finish, from there on will be very easy to keep up with pharo releases.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 12:04 PM Ferlicot D. Cyril <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: Le 11/01/2016 10:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
There is books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/>
PBE is there, I thought UPBE was not yet ready, if it is, it should **definitively** be promoted there and on pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> in general.
Please push this, this is really important.
UPBE is not finish but it is usable. With a text that say to the user that the content may evolve it should be fine.
-- Cyril Ferlicot
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participants (11)
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David Allouche -
Dimitris Chloupis -
Esteban Lorenzano -
Ferlicot D. Cyril -
Johan Fabry -
John Pfersich -
Nicolai Hess -
Serge Stinckwich -
stepharo -
Sven Van Caekenberghe -
Tudor Girba