2015-05-15 8:56 GMT+02:00 Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com>:

i.e. - can I see the methods defined in the superclass in the circled panel <http://forum.world.st/file/n4826452/Browser.jpg>

Not in the default browser. You can only see the little up-arrow, if the method is defined in this class and at least one super class. And the arrow is only visible if there are no other icons. I your example screenshot, "&" and "and:" are both implemented in False and in the superclass Boolean. But only "&" has the up-arrow icon because "and:" already has the test runner icon (the circle). I am not sure maybe there are other class browsers that let you see all local and inherited methods of a class. But what you can do with the default browser: select a method and choose "Inheritance" from the menu, this opens a MessageBrowser with the list of classes of the hierarchy, implementing this method. nicolai

Sanjay Minni wrote

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Hi

is there a way to see in the browse all the methods implemented in the super classes as well, maybe in a different colour,

i thought it was possible but am unable to find it

regards Sanjay

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thanks Sanjay 2015-05-15 11:16 UTC+02:00, Sanjay Minni <sm@planage.com>:

Thanks ... while I can get the hierarchy for a locally implemented method, is there a way for knowing implemented methods in the super class ?

The browser in Dolphin from Object-Arts has an option "show inherited methods" in which it shows all methods incl those in the super class hierarchy in the regular browser and the source is visible in read only mode in normal navigation

<http://forum.world.st/file/n4826478/DolphinBrowser.jpg>

This to me is a very useful (and vital) feature

regards Sanjay

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i.e. - can I see the methods defined in the superclass in the circled panel <http://forum.world.st/file/n4826452/Browser.jpg>;

Not in the default browser. You can only see the little up-arrow, if the method is defined in this class and at least one super class. And the arrow is only visible if there are no other icons.

I your example screenshot, "&" and "and:" are both implemented in False and in the superclass Boolean. But only "&" has the up-arrow icon because "and:" already has the test runner icon (the circle).

I am not sure maybe there are other class browsers that let you see all local and inherited methods of a class.

But what you can do with the default browser: select a method and choose "Inheritance" from the menu, this opens a MessageBrowser with the list of classes of the hierarchy, implementing this method.

nicolai

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Sanjay Minni wrote

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Hi

is there a way to see in the browse all the methods implemented in the super classes as well, maybe in a different colour,

i thought it was possible but am unable to find it

regards Sanjay

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Hello, I've just started using Pharo again after a few years absence. It is becoming a very nice environment. I completely agree with Sanjay that visibility of inherited methods and protocols is vital for several reasons: * The interface of the class I am editing includes all of its inherited methods. * If i want to over-ride a method, I would like to start from its source code. * I need to see the exact list of superclass protocols, so I can create a new method in the correct one.

From memory, when you edited an inherited method in dolphin, it asked you if you wanted to save it in the currently implementing class, or the currently browsed class.

An information field near the the source source pane is sufficient to indicate the signature of the method selected like: MyClass class >> #myMethod. It isn't necessary to crowd the method selector list with class names. Greying-out the inherited methods worked as an indicator. You also need the ability to view inherited methods up-to but not including a superclass - so that you can filter out methods of little contextual interest. Filtering out methods form Object would be an example default.

From memory IBM Smalltalk allowed similar visibility - but that's a long time ago for me...

Dolphin Smalltalk has a very beautiful browser system. It is most definitely worth exploring. Cheers, --Peter Goodall -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/how-to-see-methods-implemented-in-super-classes-tp4826... Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Thanks Ben, Giving it a try. Cheers... On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Ben Coman [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4930528h92@n4.nabble.com> wrote:

You might want to try Calypso. http://dionisiydk.blogspot.com.au/2016/12/calypso-new- system-browser-for-pharo.html

Note this only works for the current trunk of Pharo 6, which you can get via PharoLauncher, or.. http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur32/ http://files.pharo.org/image/60/

cheers -ben

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 6:53 AM, Peter Goodall <[hidden email] <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4930528&i=0>> wrote:

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Hello,

I've just started using Pharo again after a few years absence. It is becoming a very nice environment.

I completely agree with Sanjay that visibility of inherited methods and protocols is vital for several reasons:

* The interface of the class I am editing includes all of its inherited methods. * If i want to over-ride a method, I would like to start from its source code. * I need to see the exact list of superclass protocols, so I can create a new method in the correct one.

From memory, when you edited an inherited method in dolphin, it asked you if you wanted to save it in the currently implementing class, or the currently browsed class.

An information field near the the source source pane is sufficient to indicate the signature of the method selected like: MyClass class >> #myMethod. It isn't necessary to crowd the method selector list with class names. Greying-out the inherited methods worked as an indicator.

You also need the ability to view inherited methods up-to but not including a superclass - so that you can filter out methods of little contextual interest. Filtering out methods form Object would be an example default.

From memory IBM Smalltalk allowed similar visibility - but that's a long time ago for me...

Dolphin Smalltalk has a very beautiful browser system. It is most definitely worth exploring.

Cheers, --Peter Goodall

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