Hi, I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter. I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal? Thanks Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Hi Hilaire, Do you know that Pavel made a great job on this front? http://forum.world.st/Pavel-Krivanek-s-unloading-script-for-Pharo-td4737979.... Cheers, #Luc 2014-03-15 16:29 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Yes. I don't however how to us it Hilaire Le 15/03/2014 16:46, Luc Fabresse a écrit :
Hi Hilaire,
Do you know that Pavel made a great job on this front? http://forum.world.st/Pavel-Krivanek-s-unloading-script-for-Pharo-td4737979....
Cheers,
#Luc
2014-03-15 16:29 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com <mailto:hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>>:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
It is very sad there is no indication what to do with this work. I download the zip archive but see not input. Please guy, write at least a four lines note in a readme.txt file. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-3.0/job/PharoKernel... Hilaire Le 15/03/2014 16:46, Luc Fabresse a écrit :
Hi Hilaire,
Do you know that Pavel made a great job on this front? http://forum.world.st/Pavel-Krivanek-s-unloading-script-for-Pharo-td4737979....
Cheers,
#Luc
2014-03-15 16:29 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com <mailto:hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>>:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
I don't think this work is meant to be 'public facing', it is more an ongoing development effort at modularization and bootstrapping. One day, all this will probably lead to a single script that allows end users to shrink an image, but we're not here yet. BTW, the image size is only a problem in a very limited number of cases. On 16 Mar 2014, at 08:27, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
It is very sad there is no indication what to do with this work. I download the zip archive but see not input. Please guy, write at least a four lines note in a readme.txt file. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-3.0/job/PharoKernel...
Hilaire
Le 15/03/2014 16:46, Luc Fabresse a écrit :
Hi Hilaire,
Do you know that Pavel made a great job on this front? http://forum.world.st/Pavel-Krivanek-s-unloading-script-for-Pharo-td4737979....
Cheers,
#Luc
2014-03-15 16:29 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com <mailto:hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>>:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Never mind, I already moved forward in another direction. Thanks and keep going on this great effort. Hilaire Le 16/03/2014 10:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe a écrit :
I don't think this work is meant to be 'public facing', it is more an ongoing development effort at modularization and bootstrapping. One day, all this will probably lead to a single script that allows end users to shrink an image, but we're not here yet.
BTW, the image size is only a problem in a very limited number of cases.
On 16 Mar 2014, at 08:27, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
It is very sad there is no indication what to do with this work. I download the zip archive but see not input. Please guy, write at least a four lines note in a readme.txt file. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/Pharo-Kernel-3.0/job/PharoKernel...
Hilaire
Le 15/03/2014 16:46, Luc Fabresse a écrit :
Hi Hilaire,
Do you know that Pavel made a great job on this front? http://forum.world.st/Pavel-Krivanek-s-unloading-script-for-Pharo-td4737979....
Cheers,
#Luc
2014-03-15 16:29 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com <mailto:hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com>>:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Hi hilaire pay attention unloading is a pain (this is why unreloader does not try to nicely unload). The goal of unreloader is to make sure that we get good configuration to load from pavel mini image. Now unreloader does crash the vm on mac. So comment the checkState method and normally you should get a system without some of the tool. If you want to help we can work on that toegther. (first I want to finish the pass I want to do on the catalog). Stef On 15 Mar 2014, at 16:29, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Hi Stef, Yes it is tedious, I had fairly success with Pharo 1.4 to get it down to about 10MB for DrGeo release image. So, in the mean time, I will take a try with your suggestion and see how the cleaning for 1.4 worked now. Thanks Hilaire Le 15/03/2014 18:39, Pharo4Stef a écrit :
Hi hilaire
pay attention unloading is a pain (this is why unreloader does not try to nicely unload). The goal of unreloader is to make sure that we get good configuration to load from pavel mini image. Now unreloader does crash the vm on mac. So comment the checkState method and normally you should get a system without some of the tool. If you want to help we can work on that toegther. (first I want to finish the pass I want to do on the catalog).
Stef On 15 Mar 2014, at 16:29, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Even with commenting out checkState, the VM crash or the display is all white. Just achieved a shrink to ~17MB I applyed my pharo 1.4 cleaning and only get to 16.7MB. So far, not really great. Hilaire Le 15/03/2014 18:46, Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :
Hi Stef,
Yes it is tedious, I had fairly success with Pharo 1.4 to get it down to about 10MB for DrGeo release image.
So, in the mean time, I will take a try with your suggestion and see how the cleaning for 1.4 worked now.
Thanks
Hilaire
Le 15/03/2014 18:39, Pharo4Stef a écrit :
Hi hilaire
pay attention unloading is a pain (this is why unreloader does not try to nicely unload). The goal of unreloader is to make sure that we get good configuration to load from pavel mini image. Now unreloader does crash the vm on mac. So comment the checkState method and normally you should get a system without some of the tool. If you want to help we can work on that toegther. (first I want to finish the pass I want to do on the catalog).
Stef On 15 Mar 2014, at 16:29, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
On 15 Mar 2014, at 22:22, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
Even with commenting out checkState, the VM crash or the display is all white. Just achieved a shrink to ~17MB
I applyed my pharo 1.4 cleaning and only get to 16.7MB. So far, not really great.
could you let me know the list of classes you are in the system. This is clear that we should spend some months on that to get progress. Stef
Hilaire
Le 15/03/2014 18:46, Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :
Hi Stef,
Yes it is tedious, I had fairly success with Pharo 1.4 to get it down to about 10MB for DrGeo release image.
So, in the mean time, I will take a try with your suggestion and see how the cleaning for 1.4 worked now.
Thanks
Hilaire
Le 15/03/2014 18:39, Pharo4Stef a écrit :
Hi hilaire
pay attention unloading is a pain (this is why unreloader does not try to nicely unload). The goal of unreloader is to make sure that we get good configuration to load from pavel mini image. Now unreloader does crash the vm on mac. So comment the checkState method and normally you should get a system without some of the tool. If you want to help we can work on that toegther. (first I want to finish the pass I want to do on the catalog).
Stef On 15 Mar 2014, at 16:29, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I want to look at shrinking Pharo 3.0 image for iStoa. In that context I don't need anymore the developer tools
In Pharo 1.4 I experimented with unload-packages-and see-of-it-broke-or not-the-image. Do we have a better way to do it with 3.0? Which package to remove and how? I remember the other of unloading matter.
I just tried UnReloader package. But "UnReloader new unload" turn my Pharo display all white. However, it looks like it is still working. Is it normal?
Thanks
Hilaire
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
I will, but I need to reiterate because I removed a bit two much. Hilaire Le 16/03/2014 11:21, Pharo4Stef a écrit :
could you let me know the list of classes you are in the system. This is clear that we should spend some months on that to get progress.
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
Welcome to the club ;-) Alain On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Hilaire Fernandes < hilaire.fernandes@gmail.com> wrote:
I will, but I need to reiterate because I removed a bit two much.
Hilaire
Le 16/03/2014 11:21, Pharo4Stef a écrit :
could you let me know the list of classes you are in the system. This is clear that we should spend some months on that to get progress.
-- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu
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Alain Busser -
Hilaire Fernandes -
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Pharo4Stef -
Sven Van Caekenberghe