I've added a Resources page to my new blog: https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number of links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to obscure materials that people may not be interested in. As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that you believe I should consider, please let me know.
Thank you, Richard. Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use. Thanks again for all your hard work! On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
I've added a Resources page to my new blog: https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number of links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to obscure materials that people may not be interested in.
As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that you believe I should consider, please let me know.
Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S. Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license. Richard Sargent (again) wrote
Thank you, Richard.
Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use.
Thanks again for all your hard work!
On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I've added a Resources page to my new blog: https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number of links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to obscure materials that people may not be interested in.
As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that you believe I should consider, please let me know.
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Thanks. On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
I believe they do.
Richard Sargent (again) wrote
Thank you, Richard.
Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use.
Thanks again for all your hard work!
On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <
horrido.hobbies@
> wrote:
I've added a Resources page to my new blog: https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/.
It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number of links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices.
Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to obscure materials that people may not be interested in.
As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective.
Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that you believe I should consider, please let me know.
-- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1]. Dale [1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote:
Thanks.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com <mailto:horrido.hobbies@gmail.com>> wrote:
Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
I believe they do.
Richard Sargent (again) wrote > Thank you, Richard. > > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use. > > Thanks again for all your hard work! > > > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <
> horrido.hobbies@
> > wrote: >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog: >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. >> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number >>of >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. >> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to >>obscure >>materials that people may not be interested in. >> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. >> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that >>you >>believe I should consider, please let me know.
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I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm considered, it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely. Dale Henrichs-3 wrote
I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1].
Dale
[1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html
On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote:
Thanks.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <
horrido.hobbies@
> <mailto:
horrido.hobbies@
>> wrote:
Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
I believe they do.
Richard Sargent (again) wrote > Thank you, Richard. > > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use. > > Thanks again for all your hard work! > > > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <
> horrido.hobbies@
> > wrote: >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog: >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. >> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number >>of >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. >> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to >>obscure >>materials that people may not be interested in. >> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. >> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that >>you >>believe I should consider, please let me know.
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I don't know if it's still the case but "trial version" for VAST, in the past, only meant that you could use the product forever but you didn't have the possibility to create an executable iirc. On 2020-01-28 20:37, horrido wrote:
I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm considered, it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefinitely.
Dale Henrichs-3 wrote
I think the free license is contingent upon having contributed to an open source project. Also there appears to be free trial version[1].
Dale
[1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html
On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote:
Thanks.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido < horrido.hobbies@
> <mailto: horrido.hobbies@ >> wrote:
Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
I believe they do.
Richard Sargent (again) wrote > Thank you, Richard. > > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that > we have a free license that permits commercial use, not only personal use. > > Thanks again for all your hard work! > > > On January 28, 2020 2:24:16 PM PST, Richard Kenneth Eng <
> horrido.hobbies@
> > wrote: >>I've added a Resources page to my new blog: >>https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. >> >>It is very much a *curated *list. I felt this was needed because when I >>visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number >>of >>links and options. It is possible to have *too many* choices. >> >>Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to >>obscure >>materials that people may not be interested in. >> >>As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be >>useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. >> >>Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are >>useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that >>you >>believe I should consider, please let me know.
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On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:26 PM Richard Sargent < richard.sargent@gemtalksystems.com> wrote:
Thanks.
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido <horrido.hobbies@gmail.com> wrote:
Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S.
Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license.
I believe they do.
Yes we do. I would say there are 3 main entry points to using VAST. We have an *evaluation version* that is intended for those folks or enterprises interested in the platform and our professional services for their commercial needs. The second two entry points are more a measure of goodwill and community investment. They don't tend to impact our commercial business model favorably or unfavorably, but we are glad to participate. Those are *academic licenses*, available to professors and their students. We also offer, or sometimes donate, *open-source licenses* of VAST to students, attendees of our technical workshops or folks that give their time to community involvement. And this is not something new: it's there in our websites since a long time: https://www.instantiations.com/products/academic-license-program.html https://www.instantiations.com/company/open-source.html Hope this clarifies. -- Mariano Martinez Peck Email: marianopeck@gmail.com Twitter: @MartinezPeck LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/mariano-martinez-peck <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariano-mart%C3%ADnez-peck/> Blog: https://marianopeck.wordpress.com/
Very good, Richard -- this is helpful, and is a great page to refer people to. The image(?) under "Miscellaneous" is broken (at least in my browser; the other links all work.) You might consider adding a link to "A Terse Guide to Pharo", https://gist.github.com/jdevoo/8e8866cd6087e05790841d0f20b2e377 Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos (postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects); you already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists". There are many more... -t -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
tbrunz wrote
Very good, Richard -- this is helpful, and is a great page to refer people to.
The image(?) under "Miscellaneous" is broken (at least in my browser; the other links all work.)
Fixed. Thanks.
You might consider adding a link to "A Terse Guide to Pharo", https://gist.github.com/jdevoo/8e8866cd6087e05790841d0f20b2e377
Learn Smalltalk in Y Minutes <https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/smalltalk/> has nearly identical contents and I cited it in the Smalltalk Resources section.
Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos (postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects); you already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists". There are many more...
Perhaps you can provide a few more examples? Thanks. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
horrido wrote
Another thing to consider is a section (or page) for Smalltalk demos (postings that demonstrate Smalltalk strengths and attractive aspects); you already have one, "Seven minutes of Pharo for Rubyists". There are many more...
Perhaps you can provide a few more examples? Thanks.
Here's a few: https://pavel-krivanek.github.io/pharo8/pharo.html https://pharojs.github.io/Demos/MatterJsDemo/ I like to group this one with a view of its source code: https://github.com/bouraqadi/PharoJS/blob/master/Pharo/PharoJsExamples/Physi... https://youtu.be/R2rLr7Z1b8Y https://youtu.be/baxtyeFVn3w https://youtu.be/S2ovj-mW30A -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
Thanks for curating a list of useful resources. Personally, I like the book "The Design Patterns Smalltalk Companion" very much. Maybe it fits your list too. Best, Steffen Richard Kenneth Eng schrieb am Tue Jan 28 2020 23:24:16 GMT+0100 (Mitteleuropäische Normalzeit): I've added a Resources page to my new blog: https://smalltalk.tech.blog/resources/. It is very much a curated list. I felt this was needed because when I visit other Smalltalk resources pages, I get overwhelmed by the number of links and options. It is possible to have too many choices. Moreover, many of those links are either broken, or they point to obscure materials that people may not be interested in. As curator, it is my job to present those links that I believe will be useful. Of course, this is necessarily very subjective. Also, it is likely that I've overlooked some links that others feel are useful. However, I am open-minded. If there are Smalltalk links that you believe I should consider, please let me know.
Hi Come to think of it, what has happened to Claus Gittingerâs Smalltalk/X (https://www.exept.de/smalltalk-x.html). My German is feeble so I cannot understand most of it. But googling it brought me to Smalltalk/X jv-branch (https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/projects/stx-jv). That looks both interesting and open source. Vince
I think SqueakJS would be a good addition for the Open Source resources: https://squeak.js.org (Javascript based VM for running both headful and headless images both in the browser or (headless) in nodejs). And maybe Caffeine should get a mention in that same area (it uses SqueakJS): https://caffeine.js.org/ (live coding environment) Cheers, Erik -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html
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