Hi everyone, after finishing the Pharo MOOC, I have started to play with a simple project of my own, initially using Pharo 6.1. Since Pharo 7 seems to be coming soon, I wanted to try it out, and that lead to a few practical questions. 1) How do you move your personal environment to a new image? If I have to re-do my settings and re-load one by one the packages I use, I won't be trying out new images more than strictly necessary. 2) My test project lives on GitHub, so I fired up Iceberg under Pharo 7 to load it. Works fine... but I cannot commit and push under Pharo 7. Iceberg pretends that there are no changes. With Pharo 6.1, this works very well. Has the operation of Iceberg changed significantly? If so, what would be the best place to learn about this? Any pointers would be appreciated! Cheers, Konrad.
For #1: Set up a Metacello Baseline for your project and then you can automatically load your packages and settings into as many images as you like. https://github.com/Metacello/metacello Not sure about #2 khinsen wrote
Hi everyone,
after finishing the Pharo MOOC, I have started to play with a simple project of my own, initially using Pharo 6.1. Since Pharo 7 seems to be coming soon, I wanted to try it out, and that lead to a few practical questions.
1) How do you move your personal environment to a new image? If I have to re-do my settings and re-load one by one the packages I use, I won't be trying out new images more than strictly necessary.
2) My test project lives on GitHub, so I fired up Iceberg under Pharo 7 to load it. Works fine... but I cannot commit and push under Pharo 7. Iceberg pretends that there are no changes. With Pharo 6.1, this works very well. Has the operation of Iceberg changed significantly? If so, what would be the best place to learn about this?
Any pointers would be appreciated!
Cheers, Konrad.
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Am 25.11.18 um 22:35 schrieb Paul DeBruicker:
For #1:
Set up a Metacello Baseline for your project and then you can automatically load your packages and settings into as many images as you like.
Thanks for the pointer! Unfortunately all the documentation there assumes way more familiarity with Smalltalk than I have. And even a lot of familiarity with Metacello itself, as the documentation only explains the latest functionality. The good news is that it refers to "Deep into Pharo", so I will download that book and see if answers my questions. Konrad.
Le 26/11/2018 à 16:57, Konrad Hinsen a écrit :
Thanks for the pointer! Unfortunately all the documentation there assumes way more familiarity with Smalltalk than I have. And even a lot of familiarity with Metacello itself, as the documentation only explains the latest functionality.
The good news is that it refers to "Deep into Pharo", so I will download that book and see if answers my questions.
Konrad.
Hello, There is also a recent guide here: https://github.com/pharo-tips-and-tricks/pharo-tips-and-tricks/blob/master/G... I don't know if it is more beginner friendly. Feedback is welcome. -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr
Great! Am .11.2018, 21:47 Uhr, schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>:
Le 26/11/2018 à 16:57, Konrad Hinsen a écrit :
Thanks for the pointer! Unfortunately all the documentation there assumes way more familiarity with Smalltalk than I have. And even a lot of familiarity with Metacello itself, as the documentation only explains the latest functionality.
The good news is that it refers to "Deep into Pharo", so I will download that book and see if answers my questions.
Konrad.
Hello,
There is also a recent guide here: https://github.com/pharo-tips-and-tricks/pharo-tips-and-tricks/blob/master/G...
I don't know if it is more beginner friendly. Feedback is welcome.
The documentation on the book has much more information than needed to use Metacello with Iceberg, it can confuse you more than help I am afraid, at least this happened to me. The guide provided by Cyril is what you want. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_camp...> Livre de vÃrus. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_camp...>. <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:01 AM Steffen Märcker <merkste@web.de> wrote:
Great!
Am .11.2018, 21:47 Uhr, schrieb Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>:
Le 26/11/2018 à 16:57, Konrad Hinsen a écrit :
Thanks for the pointer! Unfortunately all the documentation there assumes way more familiarity with Smalltalk than I have. And even a lot of familiarity with Metacello itself, as the documentation only explains the latest functionality.
The good news is that it refers to "Deep into Pharo", so I will download that book and see if answers my questions.
Konrad.
Hello,
There is also a recent guide here:
https://github.com/pharo-tips-and-tricks/pharo-tips-and-tricks/blob/master/G...
I don't know if it is more beginner friendly. Feedback is welcome.
"Cyril Ferlicot D." <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> writes:
There is also a recent guide here: https://github.com/pharo-tips-and-tricks/pharo-tips-and-tricks/blob/master/G...
I don't know if it is more beginner friendly. Feedback is welcome.
Yes, it's a lot better for beginners because it actually explains what baselines are and which roles they play, in addition to giving examples. Thanks, Konrad.
Maybe some part should be merge with Baseline class comment ? We had a look to the comment of this class recently and not that easy to understand what is Baseline. Sent from my iPhone
On 29 Nov 2018, at 17:05, Konrad Hinsen <konrad.hinsen@fastmail.net> wrote:
"Cyril Ferlicot D." <cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com> writes:
There is also a recent guide here: https://github.com/pharo-tips-and-tricks/pharo-tips-and-tricks/blob/master/G...
I don't know if it is more beginner friendly. Feedback is welcome.
Yes, it's a lot better for beginners because it actually explains what baselines are and which roles they play, in addition to giving examples.
Thanks, Konrad.
On 26/11/2018 21:47, Cyril Ferlicot D. wrote:
There is also a recent guide here: https://github.com/pharo-tips-and-tricks/pharo-tips-and-tricks/blob/master/G...
I don't know if it is more beginner friendly. Feedback is welcome.
I did the ultimate test: I wrote my own Baseline using nothing but the information from that document. It worked the first time I loaded it into a new image! The main open question left by the guide is how to find the URLs to your dependencies. For packages from GitHub that is not too difficult, as the packages' installation instructions provide the URL. But it took me a while to figure out the URL for XMLParser, which I had installed via the Catalog Browser. In the end I searched for XMLParser on the Web site of smalltalkhub, where I found the URL. Konrad.
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