Hi, I just downloaded Pharo 5 from pharo.org clicked on the MacOS X button), opened the Catalog Browser and wanted to load / install Seaside. I must admit I didn't read anything before I did... ;-) Here are a few remarks: * Download and installation on OS X El Capitan went smoothly, just the usual security warning ion first opening. Since I know Pharo is no malware ( ;-) ), this was not an issue * There are several entries for Seaside, most of them warn me they are not tested/blessed for Pharo 5. They do not have a "Pharo 5" tag. So they could possibly be ommitted in this default view? * The "Seaside 3" entry seems to be the suitable one, but fails with "This package depends on the following classes: ContextPart" * it is not really obvious what the difference between "install stable version" and "install stable version and create group" is. The word group is something without any meaning in the context of Smalltalk to me... I clicked on the top-most entry just because I thought it's first in the menu for a reason. So I didn't really get far in this Sunday-morning-experiment :-( Joachim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
Try this last message http://forum.world.st/Seaside-3-1-and-3-2-in-Pharo-5-td4885580.html ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "jtuchel@objektfabrik.de" <jtuchel@objektfabrik.de> Inviato: â19/â06/â2016 10:32 A: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Oggetto: [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and Seaside Hi, I just downloaded Pharo 5 from pharo.org clicked on the MacOS X button), opened the Catalog Browser and wanted to load / install Seaside. I must admit I didn't read anything before I did... ;-) Here are a few remarks: Download and installation on OS X El Capitan went smoothly, just the usual security warning ion first opening. Since I know Pharo is no malware ( ;-) ), this was not an issue There are several entries for Seaside, most of them warn me they are not tested/blessed for Pharo 5. They do not have a "Pharo 5" tag. So they could possibly be ommitted in this default view? The "Seaside 3" entry seems to be the suitable one, but fails with "This package depends on the following classes: ContextPart" it is not really obvious what the difference between "install stable version" and "install stable version and create group" is. The word group is something without any meaning in the context of Smalltalk to me... I clicked on the top-most entry just because I thought it's first in the menu for a reason. So I didn't really get far in this Sunday-morning-experiment :-( Joachim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
Hi, thanks for the feedback⦠yes we are in the process of cleaning the catalog, to make thing easy. In the case of Seaside, the problem is that configuration convention name changed these years and then there are older and newer configurations coexisting (30, 3, etc.). As you correctly guessed, correct one is Seaside3. About the catalog, yes, probably is not clear at all⦠it refers to âcreate a group in browserâ, which is handy for install projects and see them all reunited⦠cheers, Esteban
On 19 Jun 2016, at 10:31, jtuchel@objektfabrik.de wrote:
Hi,
I just downloaded Pharo 5 from pharo.org clicked on the MacOS X button), opened the Catalog Browser and wanted to load / install Seaside. I must admit I didn't read anything before I did... ;-) Here are a few remarks:
Download and installation on OS X El Capitan went smoothly, just the usual security warning ion first opening. Since I know Pharo is no malware ( ;-) ), this was not an issue There are several entries for Seaside, most of them warn me they are not tested/blessed for Pharo 5. They do not have a "Pharo 5" tag. So they could possibly be ommitted in this default view? The "Seaside 3" entry seems to be the suitable one, but fails with "This package depends on the following classes: ContextPart" it is not really obvious what the difference between "install stable version" and "install stable version and create group" is. The word group is something without any meaning in the context of Smalltalk to me... I clicked on the top-most entry just because I thought it's first in the menu for a reason. So I didn't really get far in this Sunday-morning-experiment :-(
Joachim
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I'm running Pharo 5 on Windows. When I installed Seaside 3, I just used the instructions given for Gofer (entered in the Playground and executed there). I downloaded the base package: Gofer new url:'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside3'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside3) project version: #stable) load. I also tried the alternative Gofer instructions shown, and they also worked without dependency error. So depending upon how you actually did your load of Seaside 3, maybe you didn't pull in all the dependent packages. Mark On 6/19/2016 4:31 AM, jtuchel@objektfabrik.de wrote:
Hi,
I just downloaded Pharo 5 from pharo.org clicked on the MacOS X button), opened the Catalog Browser and wanted to load / install Seaside. I must admit I didn't read anything before I did... ;-)
Here are a few remarks:
* Download and installation on OS X El Capitan went smoothly, just the usual security warning ion first opening. Since I know Pharo is no malware ( ;-) ), this was not an issue * There are several entries for Seaside, most of them warn me they are not tested/blessed for Pharo 5. They do not have a "Pharo 5" tag. So they could possibly be ommitted in this default view? * The "Seaside 3" entry seems to be the suitable one, but fails with "This package depends on the following classes: ContextPart" * it is not really obvious what the difference between "install stable version" and "install stable version and create group" is. The word group is something without any meaning in the context of Smalltalk to me... I clicked on the top-most entry just because I thought it's first in the menu for a reason.
So I didn't really get far in this Sunday-morning-experiment :-(
Joachim
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Mark, I am sure I didnât load all prerequisites. Thatâs what I thought the Catalog Browser and its machinery would do for me. If I understand Estebanâs answer correctly, that is the idea, but for some changes that havenât been reflected for Seaside3 yet, it didnât work. So I guess the snippet you provided is the way to go. Thanks for answering and looking into this Joachim Von: Mark Bratcher Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2016 12:11 An: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and Seaside I'm running Pharo 5 on Windows. When I installed Seaside 3, I just used the instructions given for Gofer (entered in the Playground and executed there). I downloaded the base package: Gofer new url:'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/main'; package: 'ConfigurationOfSeaside3'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside3) project version: #stable) load. I also tried the alternative Gofer instructions shown, and they also worked without dependency error. So depending upon how you actually did your load of Seaside 3, maybe you didn't pull in all the dependent packages. Mark On 6/19/2016 4:31 AM, jtuchel@objektfabrik.de wrote: Hi, I just downloaded Pharo 5 from pharo.org clicked on the MacOS X button), opened the Catalog Browser and wanted to load / install Seaside. I must admit I didn't read anything before I did... ;-) Here are a few remarks: ⢠Download and installation on OS X El Capitan went smoothly, just the usual security warning ion first opening. Since I know Pharo is no malware ( ;-) ), this was not an issue ⢠There are several entries for Seaside, most of them warn me they are not tested/blessed for Pharo 5. They do not have a "Pharo 5" tag. So they could possibly be ommitted in this default view? ⢠The "Seaside 3" entry seems to be the suitable one, but fails with "This package depends on the following classes:  ContextPart" ⢠it is not really obvious what the difference between "install stable version" and "install stable version and create group" is. The word group is something without any meaning in the context of Smalltalk to me... I clicked on the top-most entry just because I thought it's first in the menu for a reason. So I didn't really get far in this Sunday-morning-experiment :-( Joachim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1             http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0     Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1
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Mark Bratcher