Hi, Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself: As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect. Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ? I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow. To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ? But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy). Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see. Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe - mailto:sven@beta9.be Beta Nine - software engineering - http://www.beta9.be .Mac - svc@mac.com - http://homepage.mac.com/svc
Hi sven
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
could be but not at the price to have concatenation of string and numbers. So this means that somebody would have to do a pass on the code and produce a pharo version that squeakers may want or not.
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
to andreas? may be ask him if he wants to have a version working also for pharo but without String#, override
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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Stéphane, On 11 Jun 2010, at 23:09, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Hi sven
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
could be but not at the price to have concatenation of string and numbers. So this means that somebody would have to do a pass on the code and produce a pharo version that squeakers may want or not.
I went over the code and produced a version of WebClient-Core (and WebClient-Test) that passes all units tests in Pharo 1.1 rc 2: Filename: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.24.mcz Author: Sven Van Caekenberghe Timestamp: 14 June 2010 4:24:21 pm UUID: 92b7f407-8df1-4472-962b-45d99f2364b8 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.23.mcz Filename: WebClient-Tests-SvenVanCaekenberghe.12.mcz Author: Sven Van Caekenberghe Timestamp: 14 June 2010 4:25 pm UUID: f495c2cd-54bb-42a9-a6d7-f380cd656f3f Ancestors: WebClient-Tests-ar.11.mcz Both at http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach. The only remaining method needed from the old WebClient-Pharo package is String#squeakToUtf8 squeakToUtf8 "Convert the receiver into a UTF8-encoded string" ^self convertToWithConverter: UTF8TextConverter new. There are only 4 callers so I could change that as well, should I ? I checked the references to UTF8TextConverter and it feels as if you don't want a method like #squeakToUtf8 (apart from the name ;-)
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
to andreas? may be ask him if he wants to have a version working also for pharo but without String#, override
I will contact Andreas directly once I know your position on the last remaining item. Sven BTW, Is there a way to make a (old school) ChangeSet (or even another 'patch' package) out of the differences between versions in Monticello ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly What do you think? Stef On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites. Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-) I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes. As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here. Sven On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
like that :)
- load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
I do not feel as running behind. Just been pragmatic. The rewrite of network was a task on the proposal we wrote for inria the engineer will just help/do something else and we use webclient and on a regular basis merge from the project of andreas we did that for polymorph continuously in pharo 1.0. stef
Sven I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ? Stef On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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The last version that I patched for Pharo is: http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh... ==================== Summary ==================== Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62 added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2. Sven On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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excellent! excellent! Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :) Stef On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh... ==================== Summary ==================== Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors. If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed. I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs. Sven On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
excellent! excellent! Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :)
Stef
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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excellent. Stef On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63
replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily
We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors.
If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed.
I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
excellent! excellent! Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :)
Stef
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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OK, I am now down to: 39 run, 35 passes, 0 expected failures, 2 failures, 2 errors, 0 unexpected passes with these changes (one in Network-Protocols): http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenbe... ==================== Summary ==================== Name: Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenberghe.55 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:39:26 pm UUID: a4c1d9b7-7c93-4ef4-9d42-8d68469c4b88 Ancestors: Network-Protocols-StephaneDucasse.54 fixed some bogus use of #pathForFile http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh... ==================== Summary ==================== Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.65 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:41:08 pm UUID: ec666b24-88a0-4780-a620-c026e5329259 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 fixed some bogus use of #pathForFile replaced #squeakToUtf8 with explicit UTF8TextConverter call added yet another #asString The 2 errors are really at the socket level. The 2 failures in WebSockets, a newer spec I am not familiar with. Sven On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:28, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
excellent.
Stef
On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63
replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily
We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors.
If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed.
I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
excellent! excellent! Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :)
Stef
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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Should I take the tests from your repository or from the one of andreas? On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63
replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily
We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors.
If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed.
I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
excellent! excellent! Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :)
Stef
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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WebClient-Tests-ar.25 from Andreas' WebClient repo
On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Should I take the tests from your repository or from the one of andreas?
On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63
replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily
We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors.
If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed.
I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
excellent! excellent! Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :)
Stef
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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Sven andreas fixed a some behavior in socket and socketStream so may be we should use a more recent version of WebClient-Core than of of 10 of august. What do you think? Stef On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
WebClient-Tests-ar.25 from Andreas' WebClient repo
On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Should I take the tests from your repository or from the one of andreas?
On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I just ran the units tests in Pharo1.2a #12107 and with this version
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 23 August 2010, 5:02:04 pm UUID: 2cb4f11d-870a-45f0-bcde-e61351e7edf2 Ancestors: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63
replaced SmalltalkImage current platformName with OSPlatform current platformFamily
We go from all red to 33 passed out of 39, 6 errors.
If we could solve his usage of #pathForFile I think we can make some more tests succeed.
I'll see if I can fix some more low hanging bugs.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
excellent! excellent! Let me know. I'm working on papers but I want to integrate such packages so that brave souls can start removing some of the ugly part of Network :)
Stef
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:56, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven andreas fixed a some behavior in socket and socketStream so may be we should use a more recent version of WebClient-Core than of of 10 of august. What do you think?
Stef
OK, I can do that, but WebClient does not contain any magic socket or socketstream stuff, it just uses them. I quickly browsed the diffs between my version, WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64 (baed off WebClient-Core-ar.62) and WebClient-Core-ar.67 and it seems manageable (there is mostly just added functionality). I will try to do this tomorrow. Still, I don't like running behind someone who makes little or no effort to support us (not that I don't understand his point of view). Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 19:59, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
I will try to do this tomorrow.
OK, I did a new port on the lastest versions: http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh... ==================== Summary ==================== Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.70 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 24 August 2010, 10:59:05 am UUID: 5fecc631-281f-4be9-938a-4e6e45fda64a Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.69 New port to PharoCore 1.2 #12108: - added #asString where necessary - proper use of #pathForFile with FileUrl absoluteFromText: - use OSPlatform where necessary - don't use #and:and:and:and: - replace #squeakToUtf8 with convertToWithConverter: UTF8TextConverter new Together with: http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenbe... ==================== Summary ==================== Name: Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenberghe.56 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 24 August 2010, 10:50:48 am UUID: 7acf743b-fd1a-41b7-ae78-242b66c54c96 Ancestors: Network-Protocols-StephaneDucasse.54 Switched to proper use of #pathForFile The results are similar: 45 run, 41 passes, 0 expected failures, 2 failures, 2 errors, 0 unexpected passes Regards, Sven
Ok I integrated that packages and the test packages. I also copied the packages into PharoTreatedInbox to ease future merging. I should probably copy the ones of WebClient there too for the same purpose. I integrated also your network protocol changes. BTW: I noticed that andreas a while ago (may be before starting to write webClient) refactored heavily HTTP* classes so I do not know if we want to have a look at them because may be this is better to throw away them once we redirect to webclient. Now I'm also waiting eagerly for Ocean. Stef On Aug 24, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
On 23 Aug 2010, at 19:59, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
I will try to do this tomorrow.
OK, I did a new port on the lastest versions:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.70 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 24 August 2010, 10:59:05 am UUID: 5fecc631-281f-4be9-938a-4e6e45fda64a Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.69
New port to PharoCore 1.2 #12108: - added #asString where necessary - proper use of #pathForFile with FileUrl absoluteFromText: - use OSPlatform where necessary - don't use #and:and:and:and: - replace #squeakToUtf8 with convertToWithConverter: UTF8TextConverter new
Together with:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenbe...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: Network-Protocols-SvenVanCaekenberghe.56 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 24 August 2010, 10:50:48 am UUID: 7acf743b-fd1a-41b7-ae78-242b66c54c96 Ancestors: Network-Protocols-StephaneDucasse.54
Switched to proper use of #pathForFile
The results are similar: 45 run, 41 passes, 0 expected failures, 2 failures, 2 errors, 0 unexpected passes
Regards,
Sven
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BTW sven did you sign the license agreement? Could you do it? http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/LicenseAgreement no need for a nice stamp :) you can scan it and send it to me by boring email :) Thanks http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfOkCommitters On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
OK, I will do that later today... On 23 Aug 2010, at 17:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
BTW sven did you sign the license agreement? Could you do it?
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/LicenseAgreement
no need for a nice stamp :) you can scan it and send it to me by boring email :) Thanks
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why not taking the latest one core and test from webclient and reapplying your changes? Stef On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:44 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
The last version that I patched for Pharo is:
http://www.squeaksource.com/ADayAtTheBeach/WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenbergh...
==================== Summary ====================
Name: WebClient-Core-SvenVanCaekenberghe.63 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 12 August 2010, 10:46:11 am UUID: 149d44b2-138b-4d63-a158-f587b2bd391d Ancestors: WebClient-Core-ar.62
added some more #asString's where needed to deal with the different semantics of #, in Squeak vs Pharo; removed usage of #and:and:and:and: with a composition of #and: in WebClient>>connect
Andreas did not respond to my email... The Tests corresponding to WebClient-Core-ar.62 (the ancestor) are WebClient-Tests-ar.25. I am right now having a quick look at the unit tests in PharoCore 1.2.
Sven
On 23 Aug 2010, at 15:50, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Sven
I want now to integrate webClient in 1.2 do you have a suggestion where and which packages I should take? Some in a Day at a beach ?
Stef
On Aug 13, 2010, at 7:12 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Well, I did some effort before and got Andreas to include a number of patches so that his WebClient-Core loaded into Pharo without a need for a compatibility layer. The lastest version does no longer have this property ;-)
I again submitted some patches to Andreas ( http://forum.world.st/WebClient-Core-port-to-Pharo-1-1-final-td2322411.html#... ) but he hasn't responded yet. Futhermore, I did not yet fix everything, but the code works for my purposes.
As I discussed with Stéphane, it is not clear for me how this must go further, since we keep on running 'behind'. So it is good to discuss this here.
Sven
On 13 Aug 2010, at 17:24, Miguel Enrique Cobá MartÃnez wrote:
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 12:11 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
Since we agree that we want to use WebClient in pharo by default, it would be nice to start pushing it into 1.2. I was waiting a bit to get some more feedback. What we could do is - load it in 1.2 - update it when andreas publish new versions - start forwarding to webClient - remove the other code slowly
What do you think? Stef
+1, I think Germán Arduino began the work to include WebClient in Pharo. He could give an update. Also, now that WebClient includes OAuth support Seaside apps and Pharo in general could benefit by allowing connecting to Twitter and Facebook sites.
Cheers
On Jun 10, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
Hi,
Andreas Raab's 'new' WebClient/WebServer seems quite nice, as he says himself:
As a result, we now have what I think is a pretty decent HTTP server and client implementation for Squeak 4.1 and hopefully we can nuke HTTPSocket sometime soon. WebClient is superior in every respect.
Is this something that will / should fit seamlessly into Pharo ? Or even become preinstalled ?
I didn't try his ConfigurationOfWebClient since the last version was unreadable and it seemed like an experiment, while his textual explanation was easy to follow.
To load it into and to make the unit tests run in Pharo 1.0 I had to make a couple of fixes (to WebCookie#printOn: and WebServer class#serverString). Who should I sent these changes to ?
But even then 1 unit test failed (#testServerDestroy).
Furthermore, some the changes in his package WebClient-Pharo seem a bit dangerous, especially a modification to SocketStream#peek (and the failed test was doing a peek) and an override of String#, some others are unneccessary as far as I can see.
Sven
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