Pharo 1.2.1 and ProfStef
Hi all, I'm teaching smalltalk to my pupils using a ProfStef-tutorial (http://www.lsh-marquartstein.de/schule/unterricht/faecher/informatik/unterri...). Currently we're using pharo 1.1. In pharo 1.2 ProfStefBrowser obviously got replaced by another HelpBrowser. (What you get with Help->ProfStef Tutorials). I'm missing two things: - syntax-highlighting: Is there any way, I can activate this easily? - navigation-buttons and page-counter (at the moment, my tutorial has about 60 pages): any chance to get these back? Markus
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Markus Schlager <m.slg@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm teaching smalltalk to my pupils using a ProfStef-tutorial ( http://www.lsh-marquartstein.de/schule/unterricht/faecher/informatik/unterri... ).
Currently we're using pharo 1.1. In pharo 1.2 ProfStefBrowser obviously got replaced by another HelpBrowser. (What you get with Help->ProfStef Tutorials).
Yes I removed ProfStefBrowser because it was not maintained anymore and didn't have the courage to fix it. HelpBrowser was here and interfacing it with ProfStef was almost free so.... I'm missing two things:
- syntax-highlighting: Is there any way, I can activate this easily?
Torsten, is it possible to activate syntax-highlighting for an HelpSystem book ?
- navigation-buttons and page-counter (at the moment, my tutorial has about 60 pages): any chance to get these back?
I think this may be useful for all HelpSystem books.... Torsten, what do you think ? Indeed, to create a navigator just evaluate: DockingBarMorph new addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #last label: '>>' help: 'Last lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #next label: '>' help: 'Next lesson'); addMorph:(UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #previous label: '<' help: 'Previous lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #first label: '<<' help: 'First lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newLabel: 'ProfStef navigator'); adhereTo: #top; color: (Color white alpha: 0.4); borderWidth: 0; openInWorld. Should be fun to have it in the tutorial :) Laurent.
Markus
Hi, these requirements have nothing to do with a help system and is more oriented towards a "teaching Smalltalk" tool HelpBrowser should stay generic as possible. One addition I can imagine in the future is to use rich text (HTML) instead of plain ASCII, of we find the time to look at Scamper again. However a few notes: - you can subclass HelpBrowser or implement another tool "TutorialBrowser" using HelpBrowser as template - highlighting: PluggableTextMorph is used, see PluggableTextMorph>>defaultViewerClass which can be overwritten by subclasses dont know if PluggableTextMorph supports SH out of the box after the recent shout refactoring (I think there is now also SmalltalkEditor) - a help book is a tree, displaying page numbers makes more sense for linear tutorials like ProfStef, doesnt it? - see HelpBrowser>>initWindow to see how the UI is done again you can overwrite it in subclasses or after a super call adjust the UI Did you ever try ScriptManager (WorldMenu - Tools - ScriptManager) It has Syntax highl. out of the box and you can save the results in files. Should be easy to extend with buttons if you need too. Bye T.
Hi all,
I'm teaching smalltalk to my pupils using a ProfStef-tutorial (
http://www.lsh-marquartstein.de/schule/unterricht/faecher/informatik/unterri...
).
Currently we're using pharo 1.1. In pharo 1.2 ProfStefBrowser obviously got replaced by another HelpBrowser. (What you get with Help->ProfStef Tutorials).
Yes I removed ProfStefBrowser because it was not maintained anymore and
didn't have the courage to fix it.
HelpBrowser was here and interfacing it with ProfStef was almost free so....
I'm missing two things:
- syntax-highlighting: Is there any way, I can activate this easily?
Torsten, is it possible to activate syntax-highlighting for an HelpSystem book ?
- navigation-buttons and page-counter (at the moment, my tutorial has about 60 pages): any chance to get these back?
I think this may be useful for all HelpSystem books.... Torsten, what do you think ?
Indeed, to create a navigator just evaluate:
DockingBarMorph new addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #last label: '>>' help: 'Last lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #next label: '>' help: 'Next lesson'); addMorph:(UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #previous label: '<' help: 'Previous lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #first label: '<<' help: 'First lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newLabel: 'ProfStef navigator'); adhereTo: #top; color: (Color white alpha: 0.4); borderWidth: 0; openInWorld.
Should be fun to have it in the tutorial :)
Laurent.
Markus
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On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote:
Hi,
these requirements have nothing to do with a help system and is more oriented towards a "teaching Smalltalk" tool HelpBrowser should stay generic as possible. One addition I can imagine in the future is to use rich text (HTML) instead of plain ASCII, of we find the time to look at Scamper again.
It seems putting Scamper into the game is not so easy..... However a few notes:
- you can subclass HelpBrowser or implement another tool "TutorialBrowser" using HelpBrowser as template
OK. May be an HelpSystem book could specify its default viewer class...
- highlighting: PluggableTextMorph is used, see PluggableTextMorph>>defaultViewerClass which can be overwritten by subclasses dont know if PluggableTextMorph supports SH out of the box after the recent shout refactoring (I think there is now also SmalltalkEditor) - a help book is a tree, displaying page numbers makes more sense for linear tutorials like ProfStef, doesnt it?
OK. I will add the page number in front of the page title like the 'Metacello Development Cycle' tutorial. Indeed, the title of the HelpBrowser window could be updated with the title of the current page. - see HelpBrowser>>initWindow to see how the UI is done
again you can overwrite it in subclasses or after a super call adjust the UI
OK thanks.
Did you ever try ScriptManager (WorldMenu - Tools - ScriptManager)
Yes
It has Syntax highl. out of the box and you can save the results in files. Should be easy to extend with buttons if you need too.
Personnally I like browsing ProfStef tutorials (and there's 7 tutorials in Pharo 1.2) in HelpBrowser. Thanks Torsten. I may have some time in the next days to improve this. Laurent
Bye T.
Hi all,
I'm teaching smalltalk to my pupils using a ProfStef-tutorial (
http://www.lsh-marquartstein.de/schule/unterricht/faecher/informatik/unterri...
).
Currently we're using pharo 1.1. In pharo 1.2 ProfStefBrowser obviously got replaced by another HelpBrowser. (What you get with Help->ProfStef Tutorials).
Yes I removed ProfStefBrowser because it was not maintained anymore and
didn't have the courage to fix it.
HelpBrowser was here and interfacing it with ProfStef was almost free so....
I'm missing two things:
- syntax-highlighting: Is there any way, I can activate this easily?
Torsten, is it possible to activate syntax-highlighting for an HelpSystem book ?
- navigation-buttons and page-counter (at the moment, my tutorial has about 60 pages): any chance to get these back?
I think this may be useful for all HelpSystem books.... Torsten, what do you think ?
Indeed, to create a navigator just evaluate:
DockingBarMorph new addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #last label: '>>' help: 'Last lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #next label: '>' help: 'Next lesson'); addMorph:(UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #previous label: '<' help: 'Previous lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #first label: '<<' help: 'First lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newLabel: 'ProfStef navigator'); adhereTo: #top; color: (Color white alpha: 0.4); borderWidth: 0; openInWorld.
Should be fun to have it in the tutorial :)
Laurent.
Markus
-- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de
I have a ProfStef browser in the GlamorousToolkit project. If you want to give it a try you can download a ready made image from (based on Pharo 1.2.1): http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/glamorous-toolkit-latest-dev/lastSucce... Or load it in your image by: Gofer new squeaksource: 'glamoroust'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamoroust'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamoroust) perform: #loadDefault. To play with the existing tutorials, start it with: GTProfStefEncyclopedia open Cheers, Doru On 29 Apr 2011, at 18:03, laurent laffont wrote:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares@gmx.de> wrote: Hi,
these requirements have nothing to do with a help system and is more oriented towards a "teaching Smalltalk" tool HelpBrowser should stay generic as possible. One addition I can imagine in the future is to use rich text (HTML) instead of plain ASCII, of we find the time to look at Scamper again.
It seems putting Scamper into the game is not so easy.....
However a few notes: - you can subclass HelpBrowser or implement another tool "TutorialBrowser" using HelpBrowser as template
OK. May be an HelpSystem book could specify its default viewer class...
- highlighting: PluggableTextMorph is used, see PluggableTextMorph>>defaultViewerClass which can be overwritten by subclasses dont know if PluggableTextMorph supports SH out of the box after the recent shout refactoring (I think there is now also SmalltalkEditor) - a help book is a tree, displaying page numbers makes more sense for linear tutorials like ProfStef, doesnt it?
OK. I will add the page number in front of the page title like the 'Metacello Development Cycle' tutorial.
Indeed, the title of the HelpBrowser window could be updated with the title of the current page.
- see HelpBrowser>>initWindow to see how the UI is done again you can overwrite it in subclasses or after a super call adjust the UI
OK thanks.
Did you ever try ScriptManager (WorldMenu - Tools - ScriptManager)
Yes
It has Syntax highl. out of the box and you can save the results in files. Should be easy to extend with buttons if you need too.
Personnally I like browsing ProfStef tutorials (and there's 7 tutorials in Pharo 1.2) in HelpBrowser.
Thanks Torsten. I may have some time in the next days to improve this.
Laurent
Bye T.
Hi all,
I'm teaching smalltalk to my pupils using a ProfStef-tutorial (
http://www.lsh-marquartstein.de/schule/unterricht/faecher/informatik/unterri...
).
Currently we're using pharo 1.1. In pharo 1.2 ProfStefBrowser obviously got replaced by another HelpBrowser. (What you get with Help->ProfStef Tutorials).
Yes I removed ProfStefBrowser because it was not maintained anymore and
didn't have the courage to fix it.
HelpBrowser was here and interfacing it with ProfStef was almost free so....
I'm missing two things:
- syntax-highlighting: Is there any way, I can activate this easily?
Torsten, is it possible to activate syntax-highlighting for an HelpSystem book ?
- navigation-buttons and page-counter (at the moment, my tutorial has about 60 pages): any chance to get these back?
I think this may be useful for all HelpSystem books.... Torsten, what do you think ?
Indeed, to create a navigator just evaluate:
DockingBarMorph new addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #last label: '>>' help: 'Last lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #next label: '>' help: 'Next lesson'); addMorph:(UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #previous label: '<' help: 'Previous lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #first label: '<<' help: 'First lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newLabel: 'ProfStef navigator'); adhereTo: #top; color: (Color white alpha: 0.4); borderWidth: 0; openInWorld.
Should be fun to have it in the tutorial :)
Laurent.
Markus
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I think a help system for smalltalk absolutely benefits from smalltalk syntax highlighting. And any time you're flipping through pages of documentation, it's useful to know what page you're on, how many pages are left, and to be able to easily flip back and forth between them. "Nothing to do with a help system?" I wholeheartedly disagree... Pat On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Hi,
these requirements have nothing to do with a help system and is more oriented towards a "teaching Smalltalk" tool HelpBrowser should stay generic as possible. One addition I can imagine in the future is to use rich text (HTML) instead of plain ASCII, of we find the time to look at Scamper again.
However a few notes: - you can subclass HelpBrowser or implement another tool "TutorialBrowser" using HelpBrowser as template - highlighting: PluggableTextMorph is used, see PluggableTextMorph>>defaultViewerClass which can be overwritten by subclasses dont know if PluggableTextMorph supports SH out of the box after the recent shout refactoring (I think there is now also SmalltalkEditor) - a help book is a tree, displaying page numbers makes more sense for linear tutorials like ProfStef, doesnt it? - see HelpBrowser>>initWindow to see how the UI is done again you can overwrite it in subclasses or after a super call adjust the UI
Did you ever try ScriptManager (WorldMenu - Tools - ScriptManager) It has Syntax highl. out of the box and you can save the results in files. Should be easy to extend with buttons if you need too.
Bye T.
Hi all,
I'm teaching smalltalk to my pupils using a ProfStef-tutorial (
http://www.lsh-marquartstein.de/schule/unterricht/faecher/informatik/unterri...
).
Currently we're using pharo 1.1. In pharo 1.2 ProfStefBrowser obviously got replaced by another HelpBrowser. (What you get with Help->ProfStef Tutorials).
Yes I removed ProfStefBrowser because it was not maintained anymore and
didn't have the courage to fix it.
HelpBrowser was here and interfacing it with ProfStef was almost free so....
I'm missing two things:
- syntax-highlighting: Is there any way, I can activate this easily?
Torsten, is it possible to activate syntax-highlighting for an HelpSystem book ?
- navigation-buttons and page-counter (at the moment, my tutorial has about 60 pages): any chance to get these back?
I think this may be useful for all HelpSystem books.... Torsten, what do you think ?
Indeed, to create a navigator just evaluate:
DockingBarMorph new addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #last label: '>>' help: 'Last lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #next label: '>' help: 'Next lesson'); addMorph:(UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #previous label: '<' help: 'Previous lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #first label: '<<' help: 'First lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newLabel: 'ProfStef navigator'); adhereTo: #top; color: (Color white alpha: 0.4); borderWidth: 0; openInWorld.
Should be fun to have it in the tutorial :)
Laurent.
Markus
-- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Pat Maddox wrote:
I think a help system for smalltalk absolutely benefits from smalltalk syntax highlighting.
syntax highlighting can make it tricky though to write help texts, I guess. At least with ProfStefTutorials you need lots of " and ' in order to get other colors than just red, since there isn't any switch to mark text as code. Markus
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Markus Schlager <m.slg@gmx.de> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011, Pat Maddox wrote:
I think a help system for smalltalk absolutely benefits from smalltalk
syntax highlighting.
syntax highlighting can make it tricky though to write help texts, I guess. At least with ProfStefTutorials you need lots of " and ' in order to get other colors than just red, since there isn't any switch to mark text as code.
One way is having lessons written with a Pier syntax as done with HelpSystem wikiStyleHelp: pragma. Laurent.
Markus
Here's a version of HelpSystem + ProfStef-Help with syntax highlighting (works in 1.2 and 1.3): Gofer it squeaksource: 'LaurentLSandbox'; package: 'HelpSystem-Core'; package: 'ProfStef-Help'; load Torsten, I've added HelpTopic>>beStyled HelpTopic>>isStyled and change HelpBrowser>>onItemClick So an HelpTopic can tell if it want syntax highlighting or not. If you're OK I push in HelpSystem repo. Cheers, Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Pat Maddox <patmaddox@me.com> wrote:
I think a help system for smalltalk absolutely benefits from smalltalk syntax highlighting. And any time you're flipping through pages of documentation, it's useful to know what page you're on, how many pages are left, and to be able to easily flip back and forth between them. "Nothing to do with a help system?" I wholeheartedly disagree...
Pat
On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:31 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Hi,
these requirements have nothing to do with a help system and is more oriented towards a "teaching Smalltalk" tool HelpBrowser should stay generic as possible. One addition I can imagine in the future is to use rich text (HTML) instead of plain ASCII, of we find the time to look at Scamper again.
However a few notes: - you can subclass HelpBrowser or implement another tool "TutorialBrowser" using HelpBrowser as template - highlighting: PluggableTextMorph is used, see PluggableTextMorph>>defaultViewerClass which can be overwritten by subclasses dont know if PluggableTextMorph supports SH out of the box after the recent shout refactoring (I think there is now also SmalltalkEditor) - a help book is a tree, displaying page numbers makes more sense for linear tutorials like ProfStef, doesnt it? - see HelpBrowser>>initWindow to see how the UI is done again you can overwrite it in subclasses or after a super call adjust the UI
Did you ever try ScriptManager (WorldMenu - Tools - ScriptManager) It has Syntax highl. out of the box and you can save the results in files. Should be easy to extend with buttons if you need too.
Bye T.
Hi all,
I'm teaching smalltalk to my pupils using a ProfStef-tutorial (
http://www.lsh-marquartstein.de/schule/unterricht/faecher/informatik/unterri...
).
Currently we're using pharo 1.1. In pharo 1.2 ProfStefBrowser obviously got replaced by another HelpBrowser. (What you get with Help->ProfStef Tutorials).
Yes I removed ProfStefBrowser because it was not maintained anymore and
didn't have the courage to fix it.
HelpBrowser was here and interfacing it with ProfStef was almost free so....
I'm missing two things:
- syntax-highlighting: Is there any way, I can activate this easily?
Torsten, is it possible to activate syntax-highlighting for an HelpSystem book ?
- navigation-buttons and page-counter (at the moment, my tutorial has about 60 pages): any chance to get these back?
I think this may be useful for all HelpSystem books.... Torsten, what do you think ?
Indeed, to create a navigator just evaluate:
DockingBarMorph new addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #last label: '>>' help: 'Last lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #next label: '>' help: 'Next lesson'); addMorph:(UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #previous label: '<' help: 'Previous lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newButtonFor: ProfStef action: #first label: '<<' help: 'First lesson'); addMorph: (UITheme builder newLabel: 'ProfStef navigator'); adhereTo: #top; color: (Color white alpha: 0.4); borderWidth: 0; openInWorld.
Should be fun to have it in the tutorial :)
Laurent.
Markus
-- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de
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