problem when running without changes file (on windows)
I have a pharo 6.1 image (based on the Moose 6.1 image) containing a small application. I would like to distribute this without the source code. When I run the application with the changes file present all is fine. When running with the changes file removed, it mostly works ok but apparently the functionality for e.g. creating png (linked to Cairo?) is not available. The log file is attached. Now looking a bit further into this I observed that in fact all the 6.1 images I work with seem to have this same problem, e.g. when displaying Roassal graphs they display the red windows with crosses. Is this option to run without a changes files supposed to work in 6.1 (on windows)? What should I do to make it work? (noticed that there is no setting anymore for this) Hans
Hi Hans, Did you see (read the class comment) of NoPharoFilesOpener and NoChangesLog ? Sven
On 13 Nov 2018, at 16:19, Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl> wrote:
I have a pharo 6.1 image (based on the Moose 6.1 image) containing a small application. I would like to distribute this without the source code. When I run the application with the changes file present all is fine. When running with the changes file removed, it mostly works ok but apparently the functionality for e.g. creating png (linked to Cairo?) is not available. The log file is attached.
Now looking a bit further into this I observed that in fact all the 6.1 images I work with seem to have this same problem, e.g. when displaying Roassal graphs they display the red windows with crosses.
Is this option to run without a changes files supposed to work in 6.1 (on windows)? What should I do to make it work? (noticed that there is no setting anymore for this)
Hans <PharoDebug.log>
Still, in Pharo6 the absense of changes and sources files means also that FFI calls cannot be done. UFFI uses the method source code to map arguments, and if no source code is available, FFI calls cannot be resolved. This is solved in Pharo7 thanks to Vincent Blondeau by embedding argument names into the method (and thus not requiring source code anymore). If you need it, you can take the FFICompilerPlugin class + (RBMethodNode>>ensureCachedArgumentNames) from Pharo7 and try to backport them on your Pharo6 installation. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:29 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu> wrote:
Hi Hans,
Did you see (read the class comment) of NoPharoFilesOpener and NoChangesLog ?
Sven
On 13 Nov 2018, at 16:19, Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl> wrote:
I have a pharo 6.1 image (based on the Moose 6.1 image) containing a small application. I would like to distribute this without the source code. When I run the application with the changes file present all is fine. When running with the changes file removed, it mostly works ok but apparently the functionality for e.g. creating png (linked to Cairo?) is not available. The log file is attached.
Now looking a bit further into this I observed that in fact all the 6.1 images I work with seem to have this same problem, e.g. when displaying Roassal graphs they display the red windows with crosses.
Is this option to run without a changes files supposed to work in 6.1 (on windows)? What should I do to make it work? (noticed that there is no setting anymore for this)
Hans <PharoDebug.log>
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Ok, thanks for this crucial information! Would backporting be as simple as filing out the class and the single method from Pharo7 and filing in in Pharo6.1 ? (probably not) I could also move y application to Pharo 7, but sofar I havenât been able to load Roassal2 in Pharo 7 (32bit). Any information on how to achieve this (on windows)? No Moose 7.0 image with Roassal preloaded available either, AFAIK... Hans From: Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com> Sent: dinsdag 13 november 2018 16:46 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Still, in Pharo6 the absense of changes and sources files means also that FFI calls cannot be done. UFFI uses the method source code to map arguments, and if no source code is available, FFI calls cannot be resolved. This is solved in Pharo7 thanks to Vincent Blondeau by embedding argument names into the method (and thus not requiring source code anymore). If you need it, you can take the FFICompilerPlugin class + (RBMethodNode>>ensureCachedArgumentNames) from Pharo7 and try to backport them on your Pharo6 installation. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:29 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu<mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote: Hi Hans, Did you see (read the class comment) of NoPharoFilesOpener and NoChangesLog ? Sven
On 13 Nov 2018, at 16:19, Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl<mailto:hans.baveco@wur.nl>> wrote:
I have a pharo 6.1 image (based on the Moose 6.1 image) containing a small application. I would like to distribute this without the source code. When I run the application with the changes file present all is fine. When running with the changes file removed, it mostly works ok but apparently the functionality for e.g. creating png (linked to Cairo?) is not available. The log file is attached.
Now looking a bit further into this I observed that in fact all the 6.1 images I work with seem to have this same problem, e.g. when displaying Roassal graphs they display the red windows with crosses.
Is this option to run without a changes files supposed to work in 6.1 (on windows)? What should I do to make it work? (noticed that there is no setting anymore for this)
Hans <PharoDebug.log>
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Hi Hans, On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:56 PM Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl> wrote:
Ok, thanks for this crucial information! Would backporting be as simple as filing out the class and the single method from Pharo7 and filing in in Pharo6.1 ? (probably not)
While not completely sure, I think they actually could work. Maybe you found in the way a couple of other methods to backport, but I think that it should not be that difficult. This is the original issue that fixed this in Pharo7: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/21124/FFI-should-work-without-the-sources And here the PR with the fix: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/739 There are a couple of more changes there, but not so many.
Hi, You may want to look at https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser that contains all the actions needed to perform a clean packaging (Still in dev though). The only issue is that it works for Pharo 7 only and youâll need to backport changes (I can help you on that). Some changes are related to new VM primitives so you have to use the current stable one (which should also running the Pharo 6.1 images). Donât hesitate to ask me if you need advices or help on this. I could try to make the tool work on Pharo 6, but it could be incomplete especially on the FFI and stdio part. HTH, Cheers, Vincent From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of Guillermo Polito Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 6:04 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Hi Hans, On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:56 PM Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl <mailto:hans.baveco@wur.nl> > wrote: Ok, thanks for this crucial information! Would backporting be as simple as filing out the class and the single method from Pharo7 and filing in in Pharo6.1 ? (probably not) While not completely sure, I think they actually could work. Maybe you found in the way a couple of other methods to backport, but I think that it should not be that difficult. This is the original issue that fixed this in Pharo7: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/21124/FFI-should-work-without-the-sources <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__pharo.fogbugz.com_f_cas...> And here the PR with the fix: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/739 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pharo-2Dproj...> There are a couple of more changes there, but not so many.
Hi Vincent, Indeed your Cruiser tool proved very useful! It showed me how to implement some absolutely required aspects of packaging, in pharo 6.1 (i.e. the NoDebugger trick). I tried also to get this independence of FFI of the sources working, by simply filing in the attached code (from P7) into P6.1. However this didnât appear to do the job â maybe some additional actions are required (recompiling things?)? Hans From: Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com <Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com> Sent: woensdag 21 november 2018 3:33 To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Hi, You may want to look at https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Cruiser that contains all the actions needed to perform a clean packaging (Still in dev though). The only issue is that it works for Pharo 7 only and youâll need to backport changes (I can help you on that). Some changes are related to new VM primitives so you have to use the current stable one (which should also running the Pharo 6.1 images). Donât hesitate to ask me if you need advices or help on this. I could try to make the tool work on Pharo 6, but it could be incomplete especially on the FFI and stdio part. HTH, Cheers, Vincent From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org<mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>> On Behalf Of Guillermo Polito Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 6:04 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org<mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Hi Hans, On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:56 PM Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl<mailto:hans.baveco@wur.nl>> wrote: Ok, thanks for this crucial information! Would backporting be as simple as filing out the class and the single method from Pharo7 and filing in in Pharo6.1 ? (probably not) While not completely sure, I think they actually could work. Maybe you found in the way a couple of other methods to backport, but I think that it should not be that difficult. This is the original issue that fixed this in Pharo7: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/21124/FFI-should-work-without-the-sources<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__pharo.fogbugz.com_f_cases_21124_FFI-2Dshould-2Dwork-2Dwithout-2Dthe-2Dsources&d=DwMFaQ&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8KxgfzvOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kIZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY&m=zueS3nflFQs72ZqbAT4is78d2UpD9JXXi7jAp6Luxok&s=Gt8I-Pl8yzIRifPtshzLQaSp6N32UNhEcPVLmdyrYIg&e=> And here the PR with the fix: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/pull/739<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_pharo-2Dproject_pharo_pull_739&d=DwMFaQ&c=RWI7EqL8K9lqtga8KxgfzvOYoob76EZWE0yAO85PVMQ&r=kIZIYXBAA3fhM7P5HOuTC5w6mnEApTfXPTq3lR34ZiY&m=zueS3nflFQs72ZqbAT4is78d2UpD9JXXi7jAp6Luxok&s=Omu3Ix_N-j7eA6wU7S1AhC5mhH51qh8rmDonNQzete0&e=> There are a couple of more changes there, but not so many.
Have you seen https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-7.0/ ? Roassal is loaded on it. Vincent From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org> On Behalf Of Baveco, Hans Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:56 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Ok, thanks for this crucial information! Would backporting be as simple as filing out the class and the single method from Pharo7 and filing in in Pharo6.1 ? (probably not) I could also move y application to Pharo 7, but sofar I havenât been able to load Roassal2 in Pharo 7 (32bit). Any information on how to achieve this (on windows)? No Moose 7.0 image with Roassal preloaded available either, AFAIK... Hans From: Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com> > Sent: dinsdag 13 november 2018 16:46 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Still, in Pharo6 the absense of changes and sources files means also that FFI calls cannot be done. UFFI uses the method source code to map arguments, and if no source code is available, FFI calls cannot be resolved. This is solved in Pharo7 thanks to Vincent Blondeau by embedding argument names into the method (and thus not requiring source code anymore). If you need it, you can take the FFICompilerPlugin class + (RBMethodNode>>ensureCachedArgumentNames) from Pharo7 and try to backport them on your Pharo6 installation. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:29 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu> > wrote: Hi Hans, Did you see (read the class comment) of NoPharoFilesOpener and NoChangesLog ? Sven > On 13 Nov 2018, at 16:19, Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl <mailto:hans.baveco@wur.nl> > wrote: > > I have a pharo 6.1 image (based on the Moose 6.1 image) containing a small application. I would like to distribute this without the source code. When I run the application with the changes file present all is fine. When running with the changes file removed, it mostly works ok but apparently the functionality for e.g. creating png (linked to Cairo?) is not available. The log file is attached. > > Now looking a bit further into this I observed that in fact all the 6.1 images I work with seem to have this same problem, e.g. when displaying Roassal graphs they display the red windows with crosses. > > Is this option to run without a changes files supposed to work in 6.1 (on windows)? What should I do to make it work? (noticed that there is no setting anymore for this) > > Hans > <PharoDebug.log> -- <https://www.cristal.univ-lille.fr/videos/presentation.jpg> <https://intranet.cnrs.fr/Cnrs_pratique/communiquer/guides/PublishingImages/C...> Guille Polito Research Engineer Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille CRIStAL - UMR 9189 French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cnrs.fr&d=DwMGaQ&c=R...> Web: http://guillep.github.io <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__guillep.github.io&d=DwMG...> Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13
Thanks for the link! I could download the moose-7.0 image and changes files. However, to run it a specific version of the sources files (Pharo7.0-32bit-facd684.sources) seems to be required. Where could that be found? Hans From: Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com <Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com> Sent: woensdag 21 november 2018 3:35 To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Have you seen https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-7.0/ ? Roassal is loaded on it. Vincent From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org<mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org>> On Behalf Of Baveco, Hans Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:56 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org<mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Ok, thanks for this crucial information! Would backporting be as simple as filing out the class and the single method from Pharo7 and filing in in Pharo6.1 ? (probably not) I could also move y application to Pharo 7, but sofar I havenât been able to load Roassal2 in Pharo 7 (32bit). Any information on how to achieve this (on windows)? No Moose 7.0 image with Roassal preloaded available either, AFAIK... Hans From: Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com<mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com>> Sent: dinsdag 13 november 2018 16:46 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org<mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Still, in Pharo6 the absense of changes and sources files means also that FFI calls cannot be done. UFFI uses the method source code to map arguments, and if no source code is available, FFI calls cannot be resolved. This is solved in Pharo7 thanks to Vincent Blondeau by embedding argument names into the method (and thus not requiring source code anymore). If you need it, you can take the FFICompilerPlugin class + (RBMethodNode>>ensureCachedArgumentNames) from Pharo7 and try to backport them on your Pharo6 installation. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:29 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu<mailto:sven@stfx.eu>> wrote: Hi Hans, Did you see (read the class comment) of NoPharoFilesOpener and NoChangesLog ? Sven
On 13 Nov 2018, at 16:19, Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl<mailto:hans.baveco@wur.nl>> wrote:
I have a pharo 6.1 image (based on the Moose 6.1 image) containing a small application. I would like to distribute this without the source code. When I run the application with the changes file present all is fine. When running with the changes file removed, it mostly works ok but apparently the functionality for e.g. creating png (linked to Cairo?) is not available. The log file is attached.
Now looking a bit further into this I observed that in fact all the 6.1 images I work with seem to have this same problem, e.g. when displaying Roassal graphs they display the red windows with crosses.
Is this option to run without a changes files supposed to work in 6.1 (on windows)? What should I do to make it work? (noticed that there is no setting anymore for this)
Hans <PharoDebug.log>
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You are welcomed! Here: https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-7.0/ws/Pharo7.0-32bit-facd684.sources But that is not the way it should be, I changed the Jenkins config to include the missing file. Try to download it again it is in the last build. Vincent From: Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 1:26 To: Blondeau, Vincent <Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com>; pharo-users@lists.pharo.org Subject: RE: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Thanks for the link! I could download the moose-7.0 image and changes files. However, to run it a specific version of the sources files (Pharo7.0-32bit-facd684.sources) seems to be required. Where could that be found? Hans From: Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com <mailto:Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com> <Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com <mailto:Vincent.Blondeau@lamresearch.com> > Sent: woensdag 21 november 2018 3:35 To: pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Have you seen https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-7.0/ <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ci.inria.fr_moose_job_m...> ? Roassal is loaded on it. Vincent From: Pharo-users <pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org> > On Behalf Of Baveco, Hans Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 5:56 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Ok, thanks for this crucial information! Would backporting be as simple as filing out the class and the single method from Pharo7 and filing in in Pharo6.1 ? (probably not) I could also move y application to Pharo 7, but sofar I havenât been able to load Roassal2 in Pharo 7 (32bit). Any information on how to achieve this (on windows)? No Moose 7.0 image with Roassal preloaded available either, AFAIK... Hans From: Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito@gmail.com <mailto:guillermopolito@gmail.com> > Sent: dinsdag 13 november 2018 16:46 To: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users@lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] problem when running without changes file (on windows) Still, in Pharo6 the absense of changes and sources files means also that FFI calls cannot be done. UFFI uses the method source code to map arguments, and if no source code is available, FFI calls cannot be resolved. This is solved in Pharo7 thanks to Vincent Blondeau by embedding argument names into the method (and thus not requiring source code anymore). If you need it, you can take the FFICompilerPlugin class + (RBMethodNode>>ensureCachedArgumentNames) from Pharo7 and try to backport them on your Pharo6 installation. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 4:29 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven@stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu> > wrote: Hi Hans, Did you see (read the class comment) of NoPharoFilesOpener and NoChangesLog ? Sven > On 13 Nov 2018, at 16:19, Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco@wur.nl <mailto:hans.baveco@wur.nl> > wrote: > > I have a pharo 6.1 image (based on the Moose 6.1 image) containing a small application. I would like to distribute this without the source code. When I run the application with the changes file present all is fine. When running with the changes file removed, it mostly works ok but apparently the functionality for e.g. creating png (linked to Cairo?) is not available. The log file is attached. > > Now looking a bit further into this I observed that in fact all the 6.1 images I work with seem to have this same problem, e.g. when displaying Roassal graphs they display the red windows with crosses. > > Is this option to run without a changes files supposed to work in 6.1 (on windows)? What should I do to make it work? (noticed that there is no setting anymore for this) > > Hans > <PharoDebug.log> -- <https://www.cristal.univ-lille.fr/videos/presentation.jpg> <https://intranet.cnrs.fr/Cnrs_pratique/communiquer/guides/PublishingImages/C...> Guille Polito Research Engineer Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille CRIStAL - UMR 9189 French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cnrs.fr&d=DwMGaQ&c=R...> Web: http://guillep.github.io <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__guillep.github.io&d=DwMG...> Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13
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