Hi, maybe a useful question :-) I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpme - Oz is usable on 5.0 image ? That can be the more efficient solution. Just want to stop some process. I exactly know what trigger the crash. And the "Igor hex tricksâ will not work here. Export my code. - why cannot drag a .change on another image anymore ? bug or choice ? Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert.
- Oz is usable on 5.0 image ? That can be the more efficient solution. Just want to stop some process. I exactly know what trigger the crash. And the "Igor hex tricksâ will not work here. Export my code. - why cannot drag a .change on another image anymore ? bug or choice ?
Bug. The registration mechanism was changed (and unified) to use pragmas. Normally all where ported over, but this seems to be missing. Marcus
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert.
- Oz is usable on 5.0 image ? That can be the more efficient
solution. Just want to stop some process. I exactly know what trigger the crash. And the "Igor hex tricksâ will not work here.
Export my code. - why cannot drag a .change on another image anymore ? bug or
choice ?
Bug. The registration mechanism was changed (and unified) to use pragmas. Normally all where ported over, but this seems to be missing.
and now with a bug entry: 16819 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16819/dropping-a-changes-file-on-the-world...> dropping a ".changes" file on the world does not open changes browser
Marcus
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
- Oz is usable on 5.0 image ? That can be the more efficient solution. Just want to stop some process. I exactly know what trigger the crash. And the "Igor hex tricksâ will not work here. Export my code. - why cannot drag a .change on another image anymore ? bug or choice ?
Bug. The registration mechanism was changed (and unified) to use pragmas. Normally all where ported over, but this seems to be missing.
and now with a bug entry: 16819 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/16819/dropping-a-changes-file-on-the-world...> dropping a ".changes" file on the world does not open changes browser
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea Marcus
A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com
So far not For now with the old changes replay. What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there. Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
> On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, maybe a useful question :-) > > I crashed a image :-) > And I ask myself: > - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert.
Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
In addition clean, the .change before publish the files. Especially if you plan to keep this change browser. Useful, because the actual change browser do not have a lot of way to filter select/reject and load change. Not at all in fact. But here I have 95% of the changes are just related to the image creation. I do not load Roassal, GT and everything. Should not appear in my change of my application. It is not a troll question but there are a way to reload the old change browser ? Where is it ?
On 20 Oct 2015, at 11:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr> wrote:
So far not
For now with the old changes replay. What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there.
Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is
<https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com
On 20 Oct 2015, at 19:28, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com> wrote:
In addition clean, the .change before publish the files. Especially if you plan to keep this change browser. No, we plan not to. It is just a standin until we have Epicea. Which we wanted to ship already in Pharo4.
Useful, because the actual change browser do not have a lot of way to filter select/reject and load change. Not at all in fact. But here I have 95% of the changes are just related to the image creation. I do not load Roassal, GT and everything. Should not appear in my change of my application.
It is not a troll question but there are a way to reload the old change browser ? Where is it ?
It was the last tool bases on the SringHolder/CodeHolder hierarchy. It is not a modular thing. All this was supposed to be replaced by Epicea ages (years?) ago.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 11:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
So far not
For now with the old changes replay. What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there.
Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is
<https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
Will Epicea be in pharo5? Norbert
Am 21.10.2015 um 07:57 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 19:28, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
In addition clean, the .change before publish the files. Especially if you plan to keep this change browser. No, we plan not to. It is just a standin until we have Epicea. Which we wanted to ship already in Pharo4.
Useful, because the actual change browser do not have a lot of way to filter select/reject and load change. Not at all in fact. But here I have 95% of the changes are just related to the image creation. I do not load Roassal, GT and everything. Should not appear in my change of my application.
It is not a troll question but there are a way to reload the old change browser ? Where is it ?
It was the last tool bases on the SringHolder/CodeHolder hierarchy. It is not a modular thing.
All this was supposed to be replaced by Epicea ages (years?) ago.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 11:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
So far not
For now with the old changes replay. What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there.
Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is
<https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:42, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Will Epicea be in pharo5?
Yes.
Norbert
Am 21.10.2015 um 07:57 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 19:28, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
In addition clean, the .change before publish the files. Especially if you plan to keep this change browser. No, we plan not to. It is just a standin until we have Epicea. Which we wanted to ship already in Pharo4.
Useful, because the actual change browser do not have a lot of way to filter select/reject and load change. Not at all in fact. But here I have 95% of the changes are just related to the image creation. I do not load Roassal, GT and everything. Should not appear in my change of my application.
It is not a troll question but there are a way to reload the old change browser ? Where is it ?
It was the last tool bases on the SringHolder/CodeHolder hierarchy. It is not a modular thing.
All this was supposed to be replaced by Epicea ages (years?) ago.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 11:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
So far not
For now with the old changes replay. What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there.
Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is
<https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
Am 21.10.2015 um 10:46 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr>:
On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:42, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote:
Will Epicea be in pharo5?
Yes.
Oh well then it is time to move to pharo5 I think :) thanks, Norbert
Norbert
Am 21.10.2015 um 07:57 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 19:28, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
In addition clean, the .change before publish the files. Especially if you plan to keep this change browser. No, we plan not to. It is just a standin until we have Epicea. Which we wanted to ship already in Pharo4.
Useful, because the actual change browser do not have a lot of way to filter select/reject and load change. Not at all in fact. But here I have 95% of the changes are just related to the image creation. I do not load Roassal, GT and everything. Should not appear in my change of my application.
It is not a troll question but there are a way to reload the old change browser ? Where is it ?
It was the last tool bases on the SringHolder/CodeHolder hierarchy. It is not a modular thing.
All this was supposed to be replaced by Epicea ages (years?) ago.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 11:08, stepharo <stepharo@free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
So far not
For now with the old changes replay. What would be easy to do (that nobody did) is to prompt the user for another image/change and read from there.
Le 20/10/15 14:45, Jean Baptiste Arnaud a écrit :
A question pop in my head ? Epicea will help me to recover change from my old.changes ? If not can have a link to Oz or something.
On 20 Oct 2015, at 08:19, Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 12:59, Jean Baptiste Arnaud <jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 05:03, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess@gmail.com <mailto:nicolaihess@gmail.com>> wrote:
2015-10-20 7:27 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker < <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 20 Oct 2015, at 00:26, Jean Baptiste Arnaud < <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, maybe a useful question :-)
I crashed a image :-) And I ask myself: - There are a more advance (thinking bout maybe epicea) change browser ? Because a list of 1293801283 changes and just 1 options select all (which is broken you should use shortcut) will not really helpmeet
We are in the process of integrating it. We tried saturday night, but the resulting update did not finish running all tests and we had to revert. Can I have a link to the source ?
the issue tracker entry is
<https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/14605/Integrate-Epicea>
Marcus
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
Best Regards JB jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com <mailto:jbaptiste.arnaud@gmail.com>
On 21 Oct 2015, at 11:11, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name> wrote:
Am 21.10.2015 um 10:46 schrieb Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>>:
On 21 Oct 2015, at 10:42, Norbert Hartl <norbert@hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote:
Will Epicea be in pharo5?
Yes.
Oh well then it is time to move to pharo5 I think :)
I hope we will do it this week⦠Marcus
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