Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April
On 27 Mar 2015, at 22:04, Hilaire <hilaire@drgeo.eu> wrote:
Le 27/03/2015 17:11, Jean-Christophe Bach a écrit :
Hi Pharoers,
This email as a reminder for the next Pharo sprint: it will be next Friday (3rd April) at Inria Lille. You can also join us on the IRC channel (#pharo on irc.freenode.net server). During the sprint, we will try to synchronize local and remote Pharo sprinters.
JC
Hi,
Is there any Pharo related things to prepare in advance if one wants to attempt remotely through IRC channel?
- try to connect before to check that IRC works - we try to have some issues tagged with âsprintâ on the issue tracker.. but this time it will be focused on bugs for Pharo4, I guess. This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are interesting to work on could be an idea. Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters. Marcus
This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are interesting to work on could be an idea.
Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W <https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W> It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people. Marcus
On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are interesting to work on could be an idea.
Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W <https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W>
It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.
I started to add cases that people can look at. Marcus
Hey Marcus Anything up there for the beginners ? On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are interesting to work on could be an idea.
Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.
I started to add cases that people can look at.
Marcus
On 03 Apr 2015, at 13:07, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Marcus Anything up there for the beginners ?
Not really yet⦠I am focusing myself on Pharo4⦠where we are not in a state that simple things are done (which often are cleanups).
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr <mailto:marcus.denker@inria.fr>> wrote:
This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are interesting to work on could be an idea.
Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W <https://trello.com/b/OQ2k210W>
It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.
I started to add cases that people can look at.
Marcus
Ohk. No issues :) Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Apr 2015, at 13:07, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Marcus Anything up there for the beginners ?
Not really yet⦠I am focusing myself on Pharo4⦠where we are not in a state that simple things are done (which often are cleanups).
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are interesting to work on could be an idea.
Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.
I started to add cases that people can look at.
Marcus
Hey Sean Sure ! Am up for it Could you suggest any specific task ? Thanks Jigyasa Grover On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1@gmail.com> wrote:
Ohk. No issues :) Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Apr 2015, at 13:07, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Marcus Anything up there for the beginners ?
Not really yet⦠I am focusing myself on Pharo4⦠where we are not in a state that simple things are done (which often are cleanups).
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 28 Mar 2015, at 09:20, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
This means having a look at the issue tracker to find some issue that are interesting to work on could be an idea.
Maybe a trello board could be used to sync for the remote sprinters.
It is public for viewing, for editing I think we need to add people.
I started to add cases that people can look at.
Marcus
Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc: * Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea. Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad) on who's working on which classes. * Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource, etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects. * Benchmark things. Which JSON library (of the several available) is faster at parsing large json objects in Pharo 4? That sort of thing. * Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to use some of the new 4.0 features. Do programming puzzles / interview questions and post about em. Share tips on how you theme and customize your Pharo images, which tools you use most, and so on. * As mentioned before, at least browse the open 4.0 issues on the pharo FogBugz. Try to think about how you'd go about discovering how to solve them. You'll learn a lot about the system. Also, once the issues are fixed, you can help test and confirm the fix (if you can figure out the 'how to reproduce' steps). Follow the 'to reproduce' steps to make sure you reproduce the error/issue. Then load the slice containing the fix from the pharo inbox repo, and redo the steps again to make sure it was fixed. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1@gmail.com> wrote:
Ohk. No issues :) Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D
Yes⦠maybe other people have ideas?
Marcus
Thanks Dmitri ! Will try to contribute as much as I can :) On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin <dmitri@zagidulin.net> wrote:
Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc:
* Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea. Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad) on who's working on which classes.
* Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource, etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects.
* Benchmark things. Which JSON library (of the several available) is faster at parsing large json objects in Pharo 4? That sort of thing.
* Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to use some of the new 4.0 features. Do programming puzzles / interview questions and post about em. Share tips on how you theme and customize your Pharo images, which tools you use most, and so on.
* As mentioned before, at least browse the open 4.0 issues on the pharo FogBugz. Try to think about how you'd go about discovering how to solve them. You'll learn a lot about the system. Also, once the issues are fixed, you can help test and confirm the fix (if you can figure out the 'how to reproduce' steps). Follow the 'to reproduce' steps to make sure you reproduce the error/issue. Then load the slice containing the fix from the pharo inbox repo, and redo the steps again to make sure it was fixed.
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker@inria.fr> wrote:
On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1@gmail.com> wrote:
Ohk. No issues :) Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D
Yes⦠maybe other people have ideas?
Marcus
Excerpts from Dmitri Zagidulin's message of 2015-04-03 18:28:01 +0200:
Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc:
* Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea. Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad) on who's working on which classes.
* Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource, etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects.
nice ideas. though beginners may not have any favourite projects. are there any stats on which projects are popular so those can be chosen for testing?
* Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to use some of the new 4.0 features.
same problem here, being new to pharo, i would not even know what the new features are. this should be documented in release-notes probably. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin Bähr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Martin Bähr < mbaehr@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at> wrote:
nice ideas. though beginners may not have any favourite projects. are there any stats on which projects are popular so those can be chosen for testing?
You're right. I think by 'favorite', I meant more like 'areas you care about in general, even outside of Pharo'. For example, say you're interested in data processing in general. You can ask, "How would I go about downloading a comma-separated (CSV) file, read it into Pharo, and display a graph?" This involves learning how to do File I/O, checking to see if there's a CSV library compatible with Pharo, and checking to see what sort of graphing libraries exist (I believe one was mentioned recently on the mailing list, Roassal or something). In similar vein, you can check out XML parsers, JSON parsers, etc, etc. Or you can ask "How do I connect to a relational database? I've heard Glorp mentioned, and OpenDBX, etc, so which of these would actually work in Pharo 4?". Or, For example, maybe you care about social media APIs. You can then think, "Hey I wonder if there are any Twitter or Facebook client libraries for Pharo. Maybe there's an Open Social API ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSocial ) library that I can check out." That sort of thing.
* Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to use some of the new 4.0 features.
same problem here, being new to pharo, i would not even know what the new
features are. this should be documented in release-notes probably.
Of course, understood. Then write posts about new user impressions of Pharo 4 (keeping in mind the usual "this is open source software" / "the devs are busy so don't be too harsh on them" sort of stuff). Or short tutorials on the various small things that you've figured out to do. (Like a cron job that fires up your Pharo image on the command line).
Le 03/04/2015 18:58, Dmitri Zagidulin a écrit :
You're right. I think by 'favorite', I meant more like 'areas you care about in general, even outside of Pharo'. For example, say you're interested in data processing in general. You can ask, "How would I go about downloading a comma-separated (CSV) file, read it into Pharo, and display a graph?" This involves learning how to do File
Right How-to documentation and examples will add a lot of value to Pharo, especially for beginner and the community. I remember the old time of GNU/Linux How-to[1], there were incredibly useful for me when I learn GNU/Linux. Hilaire [1] http://tldp.org/docs.html#howto -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu
On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Marcus Anything up there for the beginners ?
I often find it interesting to try to tackle more complex issues even though I know I will not be able to fix it - because I always learn a lot about the system from it. Peter
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